Is it legal to carry a Leatherman tool in a car?
Is it legal to carry a Leatherman tool in a car?
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Mr Happy

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5,812 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Just a quick query really, I really fancy one of the new Leatherman Rebar Black multi tools, but would carrying it in a car mean I fell foul of the law?

It's not a lock knife, and the blade is under 8cm long.

goldblum

10,272 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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You will need a specific licence to carry that in a car.It's rumoured a recent escapee from court in Dewkesbury was aided in his flight from justice not by that

specific Leatherman tool but by its big brother,the Leatherman massive tool.About 50 quid for a licence I think.

matchmaker

8,955 posts

223 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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goldblum said:
You will need a specific licence to carry that in a car.It's rumoured a recent escapee from court in Dewkesbury was aided in his flight from justice not by that

specific Leatherman tool but by its big brother,the Leatherman massive tool.About 50 quid for a licence I think.
Exactly what form of licence?

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

209 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Your ok as long as you dont fit a silencer.


Seriously though, you should be fine but if you get pulled by an officer having a bad day he could make a song and dance about it.

Cat

3,131 posts

292 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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As the blade doesn't lock and is not over 3 inches long then it meets the definition of a folding pocket knife so there is no restriction on carrying it in a public place.

Cat

Stu R

21,423 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Perfectly legal.

Mr Happy

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5,812 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Ta muchly everyone!

It's released in Spring according to their site, so I may pick one up the next time I'm at a Leatherman dealer.

Puddenchucker

5,379 posts

241 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Cat said:
As the blade doesn't lock..
I think you'll find the blades do lock on those. The blades definitely lock on the leatherman Tool I've got.

goldblum

10,272 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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matchmaker said:
goldblum said:
You will need a specific licence to carry that in a car.It's rumoured a recent escapee from court in Dewkesbury was aided in his flight from justice not by that

specific Leatherman tool but by its big brother,the Leatherman massive tool.About 50 quid for a licence I think.
Exactly what form of licence?
Eh? SERIOUSLY?? You think there's a Leatherman massive tool?



anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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As i need something to open my letters, I carry this.



Mr Happy

Original Poster:

5,812 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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goldblum said:
matchmaker said:
goldblum said:
You will need a specific licence to carry that in a car.It's rumoured a recent escapee from court in Dewkesbury was aided in his flight from justice not by that

specific Leatherman tool but by its big brother,the Leatherman massive tool.About 50 quid for a licence I think.
Exactly what form of licence?
Eh? SERIOUSLY?? You think there's a Leatherman massive tool?
Ok, so why the pisstake reply in the first place? What's the point... really?

croyde

25,478 posts

253 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Strapped to my belt as I write this, I have a Leatherman Wave which has locking blades, files as well as a saw. Good bloody job as the amount of mishaps I had with an earlier Leatherman because the blade, screwdriver or bottle opener etc would collapse and injure your hand when in use.

I have been stopped by the police whilst going through security to film the Pope and found to have one of these on my person only for it to be looked at and handed back.

Still not sure if it's illegal or not but it's bloody useful especially when you make new friends that are desperate for a bottle opener.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

307 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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I thought if the blade was locking it is illegal full stop. Whether you get tugged for it is another thing. May buy one myself and been looking at the issue.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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If you have a reasonable excuse then it's legal i.e a carpenter carrying a lock knife that he uses for work.

From a practical point of view you're unlikely to get dealt with for having a multi-tool for 'just in case,' purposes. You're unlikely to be searched, even less likely to be arrested and (you guessed it) even less likely to be prosecuted. It is a possibility however. Particularly if it's, "just in case I get trouble, like," as carrying anything for self defence makes it an offensive weapon.

Cat

3,131 posts

292 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Puddenchucker said:
I think you'll find the blades do lock on those. The blades definitely lock on the leatherman Tool I've got.
No idea if they lock or not, just going from the OP's comment stating it wasn't a lock knife.

Cat

Soren2

251 posts

218 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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It looks like it's locking to me. If it has a mechanism for preventing the blade folding back when open it is deemed to be a locking knife. The law (S139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988) states you would need to have good reason to have one in your possession, even in a car. Good reason is not specifically defined in law, but examples would be required for work, or use for a hobby or for religious reasons.

It is down to you to show that the reason for you having it with you in a public place is a good one.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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I used to fly (a lot) in the 1990's with a Leatherman on my belt. Can't see that being allowed nowadays hehe

Mr Happy

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5,812 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Cat said:
Puddenchucker said:
I think you'll find the blades do lock on those. The blades definitely lock on the leatherman Tool I've got.
No idea if they lock or not, just going from the OP's comment stating it wasn't a lock knife.

Cat
I must have been mistaken, I guess it can be classed as a lock when the blade is out and the handles are closed, but I was genuinely of the impression that a 'locking blade' had to have some form of device to lock the blade out at all times, being that if the tool is used 'open' the blade could concievably fold back in.

I guess I'd probably best nip into my local cop shop and see if one of the resident BiB can give a defacto answer (not that I'm doubting the answers here of course!). I'd probably struggle with a valid reason for carrying one as I'm a rep, not a fisherman/hunter. It's down to more of a want than a need for me personally.

Oh well! frown

ETA - looking at the users guide, the knife blade folds out from the closed position, surely this makes it a folding knife rather than a lock knife and thus not classed as an offensive weapon?



ETFA - further up in the text it has a picture of a lock, which denotes "All Locking Blades", the Rebar also features this same icon which means it is a lock knife... bugger frown

Edited by Mr Happy on Sunday 18th March 20:19

barker22

1,037 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Soren2 said:
It looks like it's locking to me. If it has a mechanism for preventing the blade folding back when open it is deemed to be a locking knife. The law (S139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988) states you would need to have good reason to have one in your possession, even in a car. Good reason is not specifically defined in law, but examples would be required for work, or use for a hobby or for religious reasons.

It is down to you to show that the reason for you having it with you in a public place is a good one.
What the hell kind of knife isn't locking then. A normal blade is a lock knife that has just forgot to put a hinge in the middle surely.

carreauchompeur

18,300 posts

227 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Unfortunately the only advice you'll get from the local station is the law, IE if it locks it's not legal... In practice you are highly unlikely to be nicked and thrown in a cell. Assuming you don't actually stab someone in the eye with it.