Is it normal to receive a NIP for 35mph in a 30mph Zone?

[Phil.]

Just interested in the way the law is currently applied and not disputing the NIP.

My wife was following me in a long line of rush hour traffic travelling at a similar speed and she received a NIP this week for 35mph in a 30mph zone. I thought the threshold for prosecution was exceeding 10% plus 2mph over the speed limit? It was a West Mercia camera van.

Has the threshold been tightened at some point or is the threshold at the enforcers discretion, in which case do they have to apply the threshold consistently or case by case?

[Tyre Tread]

That was what she was doing. 30+10%+2 so she wins a prize

Had she been doing 30+ 10% +1 she'd have been OK

HTH.

[Dingu]

Technically 10% + 2 is 35.000.. so if she was doing anything above that, like 35.001 they have met that calculation regardless of any other answer.

[Tyre Tread]

AIUI the threshold was always Limit +10% +1 and anything over = prosecution

[tumble dryer]

...awaits the incoming chorus of Nobody Gets Prosecuted at 35, and custard or it didn't happen...

[littleredrooster]

10% + 2mph is NOT the safe limit. It is the speed at which prosecution generally starts.

35mph is 30mph + 10% + 2, so prosecution will start at 35.

Frequently misquoted on here, unfortunately.

[PorkInsider]

tumble dryer said:

...awaits the incoming chorus of Nobody Gets Prosecuted at 35, and custard or it didn't happen...

35mph is the starting point for action.

[marksx]

PorkInsider said:

35mph is the starting point for action.

Interesting, where is this from?

[ChocolateFrog]

PorkInsider said:

tumble dryer said:

...awaits the incoming chorus of Nobody Gets Prosecuted at 35, and custard or it didn't happen...

35mph is the starting point for action.

You'd think yourself lucky if you got caught doing 49 in a 30 and got away with 3 points.

Ans conversely a summons for doing 96 on the motorway, think of the children.

[PorkInsider]

marksx said:

PorkInsider said:

35mph is the starting point for action.

Interesting, where is this from?

PHer AGTLaw's website.

Www.Counsel.direct

[marksx]

PorkInsider said:

PHer AGTLaw's website.

Www.Counsel.direct

Thank you

[Panamax]

Yes, you'll get nicked at 35 in a 30.

[Phil.]

Thanks. I checked the tracker on the car and it showed 34mph at the location of the camera van, so I guess she was just unlucky. We’re generally careful, especially in 30mph zones but she was driving my car on unfamiliar roads and in a line of traffic.

She’s not had a NIP for 15 years and none before that in 37 years of driving so not a bad record. She’s been offered a driving awareness course for 1mph over the threshold. Hey ho.

[PorkInsider]

marksx said:

PorkInsider said:

PHer AGTLaw's website.

Www.Counsel.direct

Thank you

You're welcome. Not sure where it is on the site now as it's from a while ago, but AGT still quotes it here on occasion so it's still current (other than "Summons" is now "SJPN").

[Panamax]

Phil. said:

She’s not had a NIP for 15 years and none before that in 37 years of driving so not a bad record. She’s been offered a driving awareness course for 1mph over the threshold. Hey ho.

That's the way the system works. Scare good citizens into religious observance of the limits and pray that wild lunatics will somehow follow the same path. As we know, they don't.

[Phil.]

Panamax said:

That's the way the system works. Scare good citizens into religious observance of the limits and pray that wild lunatics will somehow follow the same path. As we know, they don't.

Agreed. She’s well aware of the irony of her situation and is taking it really well. I’m sure her speed awareness course will make a considerable improvement to the safety of others on the road (sarcasm).

[anonymous-user]

Always have waze on, saved my bacon a few times. My mate used to setup speed traps and it would clock him before he'd even setup, so he would play it and move around frequently, sometimes showing him in more than one place!

[Pica-Pica]

Phil. said:

Thanks. I checked the tracker on the car and it showed 34mph at the location of the camera van, so I guess she was just unlucky. We’re generally careful, especially in 30mph zones but she was driving my car on unfamiliar roads and in a line of traffic.

She’s not had a NIP for 15 years and none before that in 37 years of driving so not a bad record. She’s been offered a driving awareness course for 1mph over the threshold. Hey ho.

Or, more correctly, she’s been offered a speed awareness course for being 5mph over the posted limit.

[gazza285]

How many cars today don’t have cruise? I use it all the time.

[Phil.]

Pica-Pica said:

Phil. said:

Thanks. I checked the tracker on the car and it showed 34mph at the location of the camera van, so I guess she was just unlucky. We’re generally careful, especially in 30mph zones but she was driving my car on unfamiliar roads and in a line of traffic.

She’s not had a NIP for 15 years and none before that in 37 years of driving so not a bad record. She’s been offered a driving awareness course for 1mph over the threshold. Hey ho.

Or, more correctly, she’s been offered a speed awareness course for being 5mph over the posted limit.

My post was correct because 1mph over the threshold is the same as 5mph over the limit in this instance. So no need for your correction thanks.