Handheld speed camera

[Markusw86]

Was driving home round the bend on a dual carriageway and there was 2 coppers with a handheld laser speed gun (no van etc ) can you get a speeding ticket if was going faster from them ?
I sped up to let a car go , went across lane and brakes when seeing them but was over the speeding limit prior to hurry up to let them go

[the-norseman]

Yes

[Markusw86]

Thanks for reply. Only ask as seen previous replies that can be speed management , my fault for speeding up so just have to learn from it

[ARHarh]

That's probably the way most get caught. Easy to.spot a massive stripey van, or a yellow box on a pole. Not so easy to spot a policeman hiding round a bend. The last 3 times I have been caught were by these hiding policemen. At least I now know all the answers to be able to.pass an SAC

[Geertsen]

Police were doing this at the end of our road yesterday with handheld cameras. They put on their Twitter account today that they fined X number of people and 2 people will be looking at ‘possible disqualifications’.

[bigothunter]

Geertsen said:

Police were doing this at the end of our road yesterday with handheld cameras. They put on their Twitter account today that they fined X number of people and 2 people will be looking at ‘possible disqualifications’.

I'm sure they'll be very satisfied with the success of their day's work. Almost as satisfied as citizens who pay their salaries, especially those who got nicked.

Always good to see the police fighting crime.

[singlecoil]

bigothunter said:

Geertsen said:

Police were doing this at the end of our road yesterday with handheld cameras. They put on their Twitter account today that they fined X number of people and 2 people will be looking at ‘possible disqualifications’.

I'm sure they'll be very satisfied with the success of their day's work. Almost as satisfied as citizens who pay their salaries, especially those who got nicked.

Always good to see the police fighting crime.

I contribute to their salaries and they didn't fine me.

[bigothunter]

singlecoil said:

I contribute to their salaries and they didn't fine me.

Your turn will come

[singlecoil]

bigothunter said:

singlecoil said:

I contribute to their salaries and they didn't fine me.

Your turn will come

No, it won't. Speed fines are a tax on a particular section of the motoring public. I choose not to be in that section.

[Chrisgr31]

Personally I would prefer more police officers holding speed guns and less van or fixed cameras.

Police officers with speed guns, usually stop those they catch, they have greater discretion, I believe the lecture from an officer immediately on being stopped is better than the classroom one and they are usually where there is a real problem or lots of complaints. If the latter they regularly catch complainants!

[Geffg]

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

[singlecoil]

Geffg said:

How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglaries, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun?

Those are losses the people affected can insure against, and take steps to prevent from happening in the first place.

[vonhosen]

Geffg said:

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

Because not all Police officers are available for all things & you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Roads Policing don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Rape investigation officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Anti terror officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Murder squad detectives don't attend to report burglaries etc.

They all deal with matters within their specialist remits & burglaries, shoplifting etc are reported by general patrol or community officers.

[gt_12345]

Well it's not like they've got real crime to police, like burglary etc

Oh, wait......

[gt_12345]

vonhosen said:

Geffg said:

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

Because not all Police officers are available for all things & you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Roads Policing don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Rape investigation officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Anti terror officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Murder squad detectives don't attend to report burglaries etc.

They all deal with matters within their specialist remits & burglaries, shoplifting etc are reported by general patrol or community officers.

Perhaps there are too many traffic police and not enough who investigate home intruders?

[martinbiz]

Markusw86 said:

Was driving home round the bend on a dual carriageway and there was 2 coppers with a handheld laser speed gun (no van etc ) can you get a speeding ticket if was going faster from them ?
I sped up to let a car go , went across lane and brakes when seeing them but was over the speeding limit prior to hurry up to let them go

I would be surprised if you hear anything more, Usually in this situation you would be stopped at the time of the offence, that is why there are 2 of them one to operate the device and the other to wave his size 10 at you to pull over, or if is not safe to stop there they will have someone stationed a couple of hundred yards down the road at a convenient place to pull you in. Maybe they felt your speed wasn’t excessive enough to warrant a stop, bearing in mind that you would need to be showing close to 60 on your speedo to get a ticket in a 50 How fast do think you were going in what limit?

Edited by martinbiz on Monday 3rd July 13:17

[vonhosen]

gt_12345 said:

vonhosen said:

Geffg said:

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

Because not all Police officers are available for all things & you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Roads Policing don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Rape investigation officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Anti terror officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Murder squad detectives don't attend to report burglaries etc.

They all deal with matters within their specialist remits & burglaries, shoplifting etc are reported by general patrol or community officers.

Perhaps there are too many traffic police and not enough who investigate home intruders?

Yet some complain there aren't enough of them, so go figure.
Traffic Police numbers have been cut, that's why you see very few.
I drove 400 motorway miles at the weekend & saw none.

I do agree however there's not enough of them for investigating burglaries but that's what happens when you drastically cut budgets like this government have done.
We need to invest more in the Police full stop, so that officer numbers can rise across the board.

[gt_12345]

vonhosen said:

gt_12345 said:

vonhosen said:

Geffg said:

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

Because not all Police officers are available for all things & you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Roads Policing don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Rape investigation officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Anti terror officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Murder squad detectives don't attend to report burglaries etc.

They all deal with matters within their specialist remits & burglaries, shoplifting etc are reported by general patrol or community officers.

Perhaps there are too many traffic police and not enough who investigate home intruders?

Yet some complain there aren't enough of them, so go figure.
Traffic Police numbers have been cut, that's why you see very few.
I drove 400 motorway miles at the weekend & saw none.

I do agree however there's not enough of them for investigating burglaries but that's what happens when you drastically cut budgets like this government have done.
We need to invest more in the Police full stop, so that officer numbers can rise across the board.

I think you're completely wrong. Have you ever seen how many police respond to a non-fatal incident? 6+ police cars is not uncommon.

And then you have the fact most police spend all day chatting with their mate (why can't they patrol alone- they are armed).

So they're not under-funded, just their assets are inefficiently utilised.

[vonhosen]

gt_12345 said:

vonhosen said:

gt_12345 said:

vonhosen said:

Geffg said:

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

Because not all Police officers are available for all things & you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Roads Policing don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Rape investigation officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Anti terror officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Murder squad detectives don't attend to report burglaries etc.

They all deal with matters within their specialist remits & burglaries, shoplifting etc are reported by general patrol or community officers.

Perhaps there are too many traffic police and not enough who investigate home intruders?

Yet some complain there aren't enough of them, so go figure.
Traffic Police numbers have been cut, that's why you see very few.
I drove 400 motorway miles at the weekend & saw none.

I do agree however there's not enough of them for investigating burglaries but that's what happens when you drastically cut budgets like this government have done.
We need to invest more in the Police full stop, so that officer numbers can rise across the board.

I think you're completely wrong. Have you ever seen how many police respond to a non-fatal incident? 6+ police cars is not uncommon.

Different times, different availabilities, also they'll try to hold an emergency response capability so not tie that up with immediately reporting a matter where there is no suspect at the scene. They have to try & keep some capability for serious/life threatening/critical incidents.
Those non emergency reports can then start backing up.
Often what is reported initially is found to not be close to what is the true picture after multiple units have attended.

gt_12345 said:

And then you have the fact most police spend all day chatting with their mate (why can't they patrol alone- they are armed).

No they don't.
Some patrol on their own, some not.
Depends on the duty/assignment.

gt_12345 said:

So they're not under-funded, just their assets are inefficiently utilised.

They are under funded.
Successive tory governments systematically cut them to the bone under austerity.
We have fewer Police per head of population than most other European countries.
Police also take on far too many of the UK's social problem holes (other services can't fulfil their responsibilities & the Police are the left trying to cover for those holes with duties that they shouldn't be engaging in as they are not a Police matter but another public service's).

[jm doc]

vonhosen said:

Geffg said:

I’d rather less police with speed guns and not because I want to speed everywhere but because I think there’s more important work to be done than speeding motorists
But those crimes don’t put money into the governments pockets.
How come there’s such a lack of police to attend burglary’s, car thefts, shoplifting etc etc but enough to stand on a corner and hide with a speed gun.

Because not all Police officers are available for all things & you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Roads Policing don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Rape investigation officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Anti terror officers don't attend to report burglaries etc.
Murder squad detectives don't attend to report burglaries etc.

They all deal with matters within their specialist remits & burglaries, shoplifting etc are reported by general patrol or community officers.

That’s why there’s dozen of scameravans littering the roads locally but hey, lose money through a scam and the police can’t even bothered to record it as a crime. Policing in this country is an utter disgrace.