Speeding ticket from Germany
Speeding ticket from Germany
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stef1808

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1,022 posts

179 months

Thursday 10th August 2023
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Was caught speeding in Germany 10th Feburay in a Swiss rental car.

Havnt been in UK since March so my mail is usually checked but these letters seemed to have slip past.. I returned to UK last week and opened them myself:

12.04
Recevied first letter to povide personal details of driver - failure punishable by finacial penality
- imposed one month driver ban - 4 month grace period otherwise suspension extended by the interval between the penalty notice taking effect and submission of the license. If fail to submit the drivers license it will be confiscated.


10.05
Reminder letter saying so far the identity of the driver is not determined beyond any doubt

So it's now been over 4 months I can't declare online who was the driver as it says the case has been escalated to court.

I tried calling the number on the letter twice but got no answer so I emailed them explaining - that was last week and no reply so far.

What happens now? Presume the ban is for driving in Germany rather than following me back to the UK?

bad company

21,330 posts

288 months

Thursday 10th August 2023
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I don’t know much about the German legal system but they can’t ban you from driving in the UK.

Good luck op.

kiethton

14,483 posts

202 months

Thursday 10th August 2023
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If it helps I was caught by a camera in Germany in 2020. Sent one letter to my wife (RK) and was very obviously a fat bloke with a beard driving...

We ignored it and have heard nothing more since.

stef1808

Original Poster:

1,022 posts

179 months

Thursday 10th August 2023
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Great! Was pretty sure they couldn’t ban or confiscate my license

jan8p

1,834 posts

250 months

Friday 11th August 2023
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stef1808 said:
Great! Was pretty sure they couldn’t ban or confiscate my license
I'd say it needs to be dealt with if you ever want to visit Germany again though, especially if it's going to court!

CharlesdeGaulle

26,882 posts

202 months

Friday 11th August 2023
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jan8p said:
stef1808 said:
Great! Was pretty sure they couldn’t ban or confiscate my license
I'd say it needs to be dealt with if you ever want to visit Germany again though, especially if it's going to court!
Agreed. If you're ever likely to drive on the Continent again (and not necessarily just in Germany) then paying the fine now might just save a lot of pain downstream. FWIW, German motoring fines are pretty modest in general.

jm doc

2,933 posts

254 months

Friday 11th August 2023
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
jan8p said:
stef1808 said:
Great! Was pretty sure they couldn’t ban or confiscate my license
I'd say it needs to be dealt with if you ever want to visit Germany again though, especially if it's going to court!
Agreed. If you're ever likely to drive on the Continent again (and not necessarily just in Germany) then paying the fine now might just save a lot of pain downstream. FWIW, German motoring fines are pretty modest in general.
This is rubbish

CharlesdeGaulle

26,882 posts

202 months

Friday 11th August 2023
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jm doc said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
jan8p said:
stef1808 said:
Great! Was pretty sure they couldn’t ban or confiscate my license
I'd say it needs to be dealt with if you ever want to visit Germany again though, especially if it's going to court!
Agreed. If you're ever likely to drive on the Continent again (and not necessarily just in Germany) then paying the fine now might just save a lot of pain downstream. FWIW, German motoring fines are pretty modest in general.
This is rubbish
Thanks. What is?

stef1808

Original Poster:

1,022 posts

179 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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There is no fine so far. Just a request to send my license in within a 4 month period which is now past. Will send it anyway and if no more reply in a month just declare it as lost.. irked

Shvsfc

23 posts

74 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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I thought that you pay the fine, then you get the choice within a four month period of when to surrender your licence for the one month driving ban? Certainly that is the case for first time offenders, otherwise the ban starts instantly.

I think if you hold a foreign licence and don't live in Germany, you can get a sticker put on your licence for the period of the driving ban, but can drive elsewhere.

Maybe get in touch with a German lawyer who maybe able to help you? Look here too:
https://www.bussgeldkataloge.de/

stef1808

Original Poster:

1,022 posts

179 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Shvsfc said:
I thought that you pay the fine, then you get the choice within a four month period of when to surrender your licence for the one month driving ban? Certainly that is the case for first time offenders, otherwise the ban starts instantly.

I think if you hold a foreign licence and don't live in Germany, you can get a sticker put on your licence for the period of the driving ban, but can drive elsewhere.

Maybe get in touch with a German lawyer who maybe able to help you? Look here too:
https://www.bussgeldkataloge.de/
No mention of fine but according to the link it’s not going to be cheap(as expected)

Shvsfc

23 posts

74 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Blimey! How quick were you going?

I think up to 25kmh over the limit is quite 'cheap' (certainly compared to the UK and countries surrounding Germany) and then it runs up a bit, including 1 month bans for repeat offenders.

stef1808

Original Poster:

1,022 posts

179 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Shvsfc said:
Blimey! How quick were you going?

I think up to 25kmh over the limit is quite 'cheap' (certainly compared to the UK and countries surrounding Germany) and then it runs up a bit, including 1 month bans for repeat offenders.
Motorway camera just after an unrestricted section

caziques

2,803 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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bad company said:
I don’t know much about the German legal system but they can’t ban you from driving in the UK.

Good luck op.
Not only that, the Germans cannot ban you from driving in any other country.

Personally I would have ignored it totally - no way would I send a UK driving licence to foreign authorities.

Make sure you don't get stopped for any reason whilst driving in Germany.

bad company

21,330 posts

288 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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caziques said:
bad company said:
I don’t know much about the German legal system but they can’t ban you from driving in the UK.

Good luck op.
Not only that, the Germans cannot ban you from driving in any other country.

Personally I would have ignored it totally - no way would I send a UK driving licence to foreign authorities.

Make sure you don't get stopped for any reason whilst driving in Germany.
Correct. Some years ago I was a Military Policeman in Germany. Anyone banned for drink driving etc., was only banned in Germany. I can’t see how that could have changed.

Do not send them your license op. They’ve no right to demand it.

Spleen

5,453 posts

143 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
jm doc said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
jan8p said:
stef1808 said:
Great! Was pretty sure they couldn’t ban or confiscate my license
I'd say it needs to be dealt with if you ever want to visit Germany again though, especially if it's going to court!
Agreed. If you're ever likely to drive on the Continent again (and not necessarily just in Germany) then paying the fine now might just save a lot of pain downstream. FWIW, German motoring fines are pretty modest in general.
This is rubbish
Thanks. What is?
Absolutely all of it, ever.