Starmer Protest. What happens afterwards?
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I’m not talking about what happens to the alleged protestor, more what happens to his security people.
It’s a pretty big b
k to drop. It’s not as though incidents like this haven’t happened before (Theresa May got handed a P45) and as someone who knows nothing about such things, you’d think it would be one of the basic areas to have covered.
So what happens after something like this?
Is security down to the local police? Or do the Met Parliamentary Protection people run the show?
Do heads roll after things like this? Do various agencies dodge and throw blame?
Starmer’s reaction was interesting, He appeared to hold the alleged protestor to his side and gripped his hand firmly. He didn’t turn push or punch which would perhaps have been my instinct. (Or John Prescott’s)). Are people at this level in the public eye told to do nothing and let security deal with it?
It was only a guy with a bag of glitter. It could easily have been more serious.
It’s a pretty big b
k to drop. It’s not as though incidents like this haven’t happened before (Theresa May got handed a P45) and as someone who knows nothing about such things, you’d think it would be one of the basic areas to have covered.So what happens after something like this?
Is security down to the local police? Or do the Met Parliamentary Protection people run the show?
Do heads roll after things like this? Do various agencies dodge and throw blame?
Starmer’s reaction was interesting, He appeared to hold the alleged protestor to his side and gripped his hand firmly. He didn’t turn push or punch which would perhaps have been my instinct. (Or John Prescott’s)). Are people at this level in the public eye told to do nothing and let security deal with it?
It was only a guy with a bag of glitter. It could easily have been more serious.
Edited by Wildcat45 on Tuesday 10th October 15:40
Edited by Wildcat45 on Tuesday 10th October 15:44
The danger has always been a lone wolf with no previous. The intelligence services don't know that someone should be watched, and they can't brief the VIP's security on a threat they don't know about.
Fortunately (in the UK at least) they generally seem to do something harmless like this (e.g. handing out P45s) but it's not impossible that someone would try and do something harmful.
Fortunately (in the UK at least) they generally seem to do something harmless like this (e.g. handing out P45s) but it's not impossible that someone would try and do something harmful.
Politicians with protection are in the secure zone where everyone has a pass and has been through security and are usually keen to connect with supporters not be surrounded by security. Certainly close protection isn't close when a leader is giving a speech.
So, in summary, I suspect that there'll be a review/post-mortem but no major issue
So, in summary, I suspect that there'll be a review/post-mortem but no major issue
donkmeister said:
The danger has always been a lone wolf with no previous. The intelligence services don't know that someone should be watched, and they can't brief the VIP's security on a threat they don't know about.
Fortunately (in the UK at least) they generally seem to do something harmless like this (e.g. handing out P45s) but it's not impossible that someone would try and do something harmful.
You'd think even without the benefit of intelligence that the stage would be suitably covered by people who were primed to respond to anyone rushing it though.Fortunately (in the UK at least) they generally seem to do something harmless like this (e.g. handing out P45s) but it's not impossible that someone would try and do something harmful.
I don't know how big the stage was, but there was a good 10 seconds before the protestor was accosted by security. That is shambolic in my opinion.
I can only assume that a Labour party conference seems like a pretty benign event for a protest to take place, but given JSO's antics it surely is a heightened risk.
Edited by Durzel on Wednesday 11th October 13:18
Hi,
Quite a few years ago, I was performing duty at an outer cordon of one of the party conferences, and for a couple of hours there was a blind guy with a white stick in the area. We would chat to him and he explained how he'd been blind from birth etc.
When some of the delegates arrived, this bloke suddenly ran at full pelt and hurdled two rows of barriers before being stopped!!
Quite a few years ago, I was performing duty at an outer cordon of one of the party conferences, and for a couple of hours there was a blind guy with a white stick in the area. We would chat to him and he explained how he'd been blind from birth etc.
When some of the delegates arrived, this bloke suddenly ran at full pelt and hurdled two rows of barriers before being stopped!!
mkjess123 said:
Hi,
Quite a few years ago, I was performing duty at an outer cordon of one of the party conferences, and for a couple of hours there was a blind guy with a white stick in the area. We would chat to him and he explained how he'd been blind from birth etc.
When some of the delegates arrived, this bloke suddenly ran at full pelt and hurdled two rows of barriers before being stopped!!
You obviously hadn't seen 'The Day of the Jackal' and he had. Quite a few years ago, I was performing duty at an outer cordon of one of the party conferences, and for a couple of hours there was a blind guy with a white stick in the area. We would chat to him and he explained how he'd been blind from birth etc.
When some of the delegates arrived, this bloke suddenly ran at full pelt and hurdled two rows of barriers before being stopped!!
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