BCA Driver Caught Speeding Post-Collection
BCA Driver Caught Speeding Post-Collection
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Taariq15

Original Poster:

1 posts

1 month

Sunday 10th August
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Hi,

My lease vehicle was recently collected by a BCA driver. Shortly after the collection, the vehicle was recorded exceeding the variable speed limit on the M1, resulting in a fine being issued. I have received a letter from the police regarding this offence.

I have clear evidence that I was not the driver at the time, including video footage and the BCA collection form showing the date and time of the collection.

I am unsure of the correct procedure should I contact BCA directly or the police authority that issued the fine? Any guidance on how to proceed would be appreciated.

The big yin

282 posts

58 months

Sunday 10th August
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I would contact the police authority who sent it as ultimatly they are the ones dealing with it and I suppose can send it on to BCA.
I would also contact BCA as then they are aware as well.
Keep copies of e mails etc though.

ADJimbo

692 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th August
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This is easily sorted.

You’ve been sent a s.172 and you need to respond to this formally. There will be a section on the response which will go along the lines of ‘I wasn’t the driver of the vehicle but know who was’ and you need to nominate BCA as a business at their HQ address.

Return the s.172 - I’d also include a copy of the BCA collection report showing the date and time for best practice.

There is no need to raise with BCA. It’s a paper exercise.

Keep copies of everything you send back to the prosecuting authority.

Inbox

359 posts

3 months

Sunday 10th August
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The big yin said:
I would contact the police authority who sent it as ultimatly they are the ones dealing with it and I suppose can send it on to BCA.
I would also contact BCA as then they are aware as well.
Keep copies of e mails etc though.
You need to identify the driver of the vehicle so fill in the form as required and send it back to the issuing authority as required. As above a courtesy call to let BCA know what has happened would support your case of not being the driver.

What you don't want to do is fail to identify the driver within the required time limits as you can be prosecuted, sure you don't want 6 points yourself.

rallycross

13,593 posts

254 months

Sunday 10th August
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Read the form
Fill it in
Send it off

MisanoPayments

522 posts

59 months

Sunday 10th August
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I had similar with BCA when a guy came to collect an A6 on a weekday morning.

I received two penalty notices where the car had been captured late that night stopped in a bus lane in Streatham and another from around the same/next day where it had been parked in an estate without a permit.

I think I called BCA followed by an email with the notices scanned and politely said I didn't want to hear any more on the subject and it was over to them. I was puzzled as to why such a big outfit essentially let a car go unaccounted for, for so long after collection.

No wonder the guy was so appreciative of me having had it cleaned in and out prior to collection; he was going cruising around in it, not taking it straight to a compound!

martinbiz

3,590 posts

162 months

Sunday 10th August
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Inbox said:
The big yin said:
I would contact the police authority who sent it as ultimatly they are the ones dealing with it and I suppose can send it on to BCA.
I would also contact BCA as then they are aware as well.
Keep copies of e mails etc though.
You need to identify the driver of the vehicle so fill in the form as required and send it back to the issuing authority as required. As above a courtesy call to let BCA know what has happened would support your case of not being the driver.

What you don't want to do is fail to identify the driver within the required time limits as you can be prosecuted, sure you don't want 6 points yourself.
The OP does not need to identify the driver as he was no Longer the keeper of vehicle when the offence was committed. He needs to fill in the form and give any information in his power to give that may help identify the driver, in this case BCA’s details. No need to do anything else, contacting BCA is pointless. No need to make it complicated

Alickadoo

3,071 posts

40 months

Sunday 10th August
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Taariq15 said:
Hi,

My lease vehicle was recently collected by a BCA driver. Shortly after the collection, the vehicle was recorded exceeding the variable speed limit on the M1, resulting in a fine being issued. I have received a letter from the police regarding this offence.

I have clear evidence that I was not the driver at the time, including video footage and the BCA collection form showing the date and time of the collection.

I am unsure of the correct procedure should I contact BCA directly or the police authority that issued the fine? Any guidance on how to proceed would be appreciated.
You did the V5 transfer bit online as soon as you handed over the keys, didn't you?

Inbox

359 posts

3 months

Sunday 10th August
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martinbiz said:
Inbox said:
The big yin said:
I would contact the police authority who sent it as ultimatly they are the ones dealing with it and I suppose can send it on to BCA.
I would also contact BCA as then they are aware as well.
Keep copies of e mails etc though.
You need to identify the driver of the vehicle so fill in the form as required and send it back to the issuing authority as required. As above a courtesy call to let BCA know what has happened would support your case of not being the driver.

What you don't want to do is fail to identify the driver within the required time limits as you can be prosecuted, sure you don't want 6 points yourself.
The OP does not need to identify the driver as he was no Longer the keeper of vehicle when the offence was committed. He needs to fill in the form and give any information in his power to give that may help identify the driver, in this case BCA’s details. No need to do anything else, contacting BCA is pointless. No need to make it complicated
The important bit is for the OP to tell the Police they weren't the driver and point them in the right direction to protect themselves, the Police obviously think the OP was the registered keeper at the time as they received the ticket! If the OP has the name of the person who collected the vehicle i.e. they know (to the best of their knowledge) who was driving it should be divulged, obviously c/o BCA.

Informing BCA is not mandatory but nothing wrong with a little courtesy in life.

Mandat

4,299 posts

255 months

Sunday 10th August
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Alickadoo said:
You did the V5 transfer bit online as soon as you handed over the keys, didn't you?
With a lease car, the V5 was never in the OP's name.

Mammasaid

4,893 posts

114 months

Sunday 10th August
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Alickadoo said:
You did the V5 transfer bit online as soon as you handed over the keys, didn't you?
Tell me you don't know about leases, without telling me you don't know about leases...biggrin

ADJimbo

692 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th August
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MisanoPayments said:
I had similar with BCA when a guy came to collect an A6 on a weekday morning.

I received two penalty notices where the car had been captured late that night stopped in a bus lane in Streatham and another from around the same/next day where it had been parked in an estate without a permit.

I think I called BCA followed by an email with the notices scanned and politely said I didn't want to hear any more on the subject and it was over to them. I was puzzled as to why such a big outfit essentially let a car go unaccounted for, for so long after collection.

No wonder the guy was so appreciative of me having had it cleaned in and out prior to collection; he was going cruising around in it, not taking it straight to a compound!
I’ve a neighbour who used to drive for BCA in his retirement for something to do and top-up his holiday fund. He used to frequently bring cars home with him. It’s how they route their drivers apparently - if he’d collected a BMW from London on a Monday, that needed to go to an auction in say, Newcastle, he’d keep the BMW overnight at home and then head up to the auction house in Newcastle on Tuesday, drop the BMW and then get another domestic collection in Newcastle to come home in, and drop that car somewhere on the Wednesday etc.

The only caveat was, once home, he couldn’t use the vehicle for SD&P.

It was a much more efficient - both £ and time - doing it that way opposed to continually lodging vehicles at BCA sites overnight.


Edited by ADJimbo on Sunday 10th August 17:30

martinbiz

3,590 posts

162 months

Sunday 10th August
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Inbox said:
The important bit is for the OP to tell the Police they weren't the driver and point them in the right direction to protect themselves, the Police obviously think the OP was the registered keeper at the time as they received the ticket! If the OP has the name of the person who collected the vehicle i.e. they know (to the best of their knowledge) who was driving it should be divulged, obviously c/o BCA.

Informing BCA is not mandatory but nothing wrong with a little courtesy in life.
So as I said “any information that is in his power to give

Forget the BCA, it’s not a requirement or anything to do with courtesy, it will be their job to inform / confirm the identity of the driver’ when they receive a NIP

GasEngineer

1,592 posts

79 months

Monday 11th August
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Mammasaid said:
Alickadoo said:
You did the V5 transfer bit online as soon as you handed over the keys, didn't you?
Tell me you don't know about leases, without telling me you don't know about leases...biggrin
It's great when this sort of smart arse comment gets shot down in flames !!

(Especially when written as "you did do XXX didn't you?").

Alickadoo

3,071 posts

40 months

Monday 11th August
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Mandat said:
Alickadoo said:
You did the V5 transfer bit online as soon as you handed over the keys, didn't you?
With a lease car, the V5 was never in the OP's name.
Captain Mainwaring:-
"I was waiting to see who would be the first to spot that."

agtlaw

7,208 posts

223 months

Monday 11th August
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ADJimbo said:
This is easily sorted.

You’ve been sent a s.172 and you need to respond to this formally. There will be a section on the response which will go along the lines of ‘I wasn’t the driver of the vehicle but know who was’ and you need to nominate BCA as a business at their HQ address.

Return the s.172 - I’d also include a copy of the BCA collection report showing the date and time for best practice.

There is no need to raise with BCA. It’s a paper exercise.

Keep copies of everything you send back to the prosecuting authority.
This is the correct part to complete - "I was not the owner/keeper/hirer at the time of the alleged offence because I sold/disposed of it to the person in Section C."

In Section C, include the Company Name and their contact details.

As it's 2025, do the nomination online. Use signed-for post if it can't be done online.

paul_c123

1,104 posts

10 months

Monday 11th August
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I am assuming the lease company were originally sent the NIP. And also (big assumption) they knew the date and time their car was collected from the lessee. And also who they sent to go get it. One wonders why they gave the wrong info in the first place...........never mind.

MustangGT

13,452 posts

297 months

Monday 11th August
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paul_c123 said:
I am assuming the lease company were originally sent the NIP. And also (big assumption) they knew the date and time their car was collected from the lessee. And also who they sent to go get it. One wonders why they gave the wrong info in the first place...........never mind.
Would they though? All they may know is that BCA were due to collect the car on that specific date, probably not at a specific time.