Never received penalty notice
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Followed a Q7 into a box junction. I could see there was sufficient room for us both to clear the yellow grid. Q7 driver stopped approx 8ft short of the car in front of it. Despite my indicating as such, the driver refused to move forward, leaving my rear bumper and back tyres transgressing the last box junction yellow line for 20 secs. No obstruction caused to anyone else.
I know all of this as result of receiving a letter linking to video. I also recalled the incident. However, the letter states that I ignored the ‘initial letter’ which it claims was sent some two months earlier. That letter offered a discount on the penalty charge of £80.
The letter I’ve received demands £160 plus an £80 charge certificate.
I’ve contacted the local authority concerned and explained that I,
genuinely didn’t receive any communication prior. They confirm they never posted via a tracked or signed for service.
Following correspondence they state- ‘in the interest of reasonableness’ they will suspend the charge certificate if I pay the full ticket amount of £160.
This seems entirely unfair as I didn’t receive any previous correspondence.
Is it worth my contesting this point via hearing or is the system such that I will be doomed whatever?
I know all of this as result of receiving a letter linking to video. I also recalled the incident. However, the letter states that I ignored the ‘initial letter’ which it claims was sent some two months earlier. That letter offered a discount on the penalty charge of £80.
The letter I’ve received demands £160 plus an £80 charge certificate.
I’ve contacted the local authority concerned and explained that I,
genuinely didn’t receive any communication prior. They confirm they never posted via a tracked or signed for service.
Following correspondence they state- ‘in the interest of reasonableness’ they will suspend the charge certificate if I pay the full ticket amount of £160.
This seems entirely unfair as I didn’t receive any previous correspondence.
Is it worth my contesting this point via hearing or is the system such that I will be doomed whatever?
t these days. I often receive stuff 2 weeks after they were sent.Followed a Q7 into a box junction. I could see there was sufficient room for us both to clear the yellow grid. Q7 driver stopped approx 8ft short of the car in front of it. Despite my indicating as such, the driver refused to move forward, leaving my rear bumper and back tyres transgressing the last box junction yellow line for 20 secs. No obstruction caused to anyone else.
I know all of this as result of receiving a letter linking to video. I also recalled the incident. However, the letter states that I ignored the ‘initial letter’ which it claims was sent some two months earlier. That letter offered a discount on the penalty charge of £80.
The letter I’ve received demands £160 plus an £80 charge certificate.
I’ve contacted the local authority concerned and explained that I,
genuinely didn’t receive any communication prior. They confirm they never posted via a tracked or signed for service.
Following correspondence they state- ‘in the interest of reasonableness’ they will suspend the charge certificate if I pay the full ticket amount of £160.
This seems entirely unfair as I didn’t receive any previous correspondence.
Is it worth my contesting this point via hearing or is the system such that I will be doomed whatever?
I know all of this as result of receiving a letter linking to video. I also recalled the incident. However, the letter states that I ignored the ‘initial letter’ which it claims was sent some two months earlier. That letter offered a discount on the penalty charge of £80.
The letter I’ve received demands £160 plus an £80 charge certificate.
I’ve contacted the local authority concerned and explained that I,
genuinely didn’t receive any communication prior. They confirm they never posted via a tracked or signed for service.
Following correspondence they state- ‘in the interest of reasonableness’ they will suspend the charge certificate if I pay the full ticket amount of £160.
This seems entirely unfair as I didn’t receive any previous correspondence.
Is it worth my contesting this point via hearing or is the system such that I will be doomed whatever?
John Henry said:
Followed a Q7 into a box junction. I could see there was sufficient room for us both to clear the yellow grid. Q7 driver stopped approx 8ft short of the car in front of it. Despite my indicating as such, the driver refused to move forward, leaving my rear bumper and back tyres transgressing the last box junction yellow line for 20 secs. No obstruction caused to anyone else.
I know all of this as result of receiving a letter linking to video. I also recalled the incident. However, the letter states that I ignored the ‘initial letter’ which it claims was sent some two months earlier. That letter offered a discount on the penalty charge of £80.
The letter I’ve received demands £160 plus an £80 charge certificate.
I’ve contacted the local authority concerned and explained that I,
genuinely didn’t receive any communication prior. They confirm they never posted via a tracked or signed for service.
Following correspondence they state- ‘in the interest of reasonableness’ they will suspend the charge certificate if I pay the full ticket amount of £160.
This seems entirely unfair as I didn’t receive any previous correspondence.
Is it worth my contesting this point via hearing or is the system such that I will be doomed whatever?
You stopped in a yellow box junction. You were caught doing so on video. I know all of this as result of receiving a letter linking to video. I also recalled the incident. However, the letter states that I ignored the ‘initial letter’ which it claims was sent some two months earlier. That letter offered a discount on the penalty charge of £80.
The letter I’ve received demands £160 plus an £80 charge certificate.
I’ve contacted the local authority concerned and explained that I,
genuinely didn’t receive any communication prior. They confirm they never posted via a tracked or signed for service.
Following correspondence they state- ‘in the interest of reasonableness’ they will suspend the charge certificate if I pay the full ticket amount of £160.
This seems entirely unfair as I didn’t receive any previous correspondence.
Is it worth my contesting this point via hearing or is the system such that I will be doomed whatever?
I'm guessing this was in London and was on a Red Route. The fine is £160, reduced to £80 if paid early (within 14 days). If you fail to pay the £160, an additional penalty charge can be applied of £80.
You've explained you didn't get the letters, and so they're giving you the benefit of the doubt by removing the £80 additional penalty charge.
Pay the £160, be more cautious about yellow boxes, and move on with life.
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When you entered the box you had judged there was space available to clear it.
This guy will be able to help you:
https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/
When you entered the box you had judged there was space available to clear it.
This guy will be able to help you:
https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/
Somebody else had exactly the same problem a couple of weeks ago..
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Cliftonite said:
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When you entered the box you had judged there was space available to clear it.
This guy will be able to help you:
https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/
He's not arguing his innocence. He knows he was in the wrong. He's arguing about the £160 fine when he wasn't given the chance to pay the original £80 fine. When you entered the box you had judged there was space available to clear it.
This guy will be able to help you:
https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/
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