Blanket 20mph limit across England

[CoolHands]

This is clearly happening. Why did wales have to implement theirs with statutory instrument whereas it’s happening all across England with no consultation; no legislative changes approved by parliament like in wales?

[Stu R]

Wales changed the default by statute. England is free to do the same at the national level, it just hasn't, so it's done on a local basis mainly by TRO.

[CoolHands]

So is every change having a revised TRO then, is that how they do it? It’s happening in road after road after road. I haven’t seen any notices go up about potential changes to TROs if they need to when being changed (I don’t know). I guess not.

[Stu R]

CoolHands said:

So is every change having a revised TRO then, is that how they do it? It s happening in road after road after road. I haven t seen any notices go up about potential changes to TROs if they need to when being changed (I don t know). I guess not.

It doesn t have to be one road, one TRO. Councils can carpet bomb an area with a TRO covering a batch of roads. The consultation/notice can be just a council legal notice rather than something obvious on every street.

Here's an example https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2...

[WyrleyD]

It's been implemented in two towns near where I live, don't recall seeing anything publicised in the local press about it just overnight 20mph signs went up.

[drmike37]

There seems no rhyme or reason. 20mph limits go up in some places, but in our village where we actually want one (village school etc) nothing happens.

[Steve-B]

The whole of Oxon is crippled everywhere from what I've experienced just because the greenloons in Oxford wanted it for there.
The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!

[AndrewGP]

Living on the edge of Oxfordshire, and driving within the county most of the time, I despair of the anti-car attitude the County Council has.

They spend huge sums of money on largely pointless 20mph limits (I admit a few are probably worthwhile, however most definitely aren’t) but the road surface is littered with potholes, cracks and sunken drains, and has been for months with no sign of even a temporary repair.

[ac.cobra]

One scheme is to generate money from the motorists and the other is not to spend money.
Don't loose your hard earned money. You all know in which direction the country is moving.

[Glitzy Mitzy]

And yet, in sunny Essex, there's barely a twenty limit to be seen. We're suffering from the scourge of the vanishing national, however; lots of things that were national limit have now been changed, arbitrarily, to fifty or even forty. Nothing is actually enforced, though, least of all by the police.

[xx99xx]

ac.cobra said:

One scheme is to generate money from the motorists and the other is not to spend money.
Don't loose your hard earned money. You all know in which direction the country is moving.

Local highway authorities don't receive the money from speeding fines.

If they did, I'm sure speed cameras would be even more prevalent.