Police re-selling seized E-bikes
Discussion
It would help if the terms were better understood.
If the police resold EPAC machines, the full term for e-bikes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electri...
And then referred to those that didn’t comply as electric motorcycles even e-motorcycles, then they would use those terms in the sales.
Crush the e-motorcycles and resell the legal e-bikes.
It doesn’t take much working out.
If the police resold EPAC machines, the full term for e-bikes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electri...
And then referred to those that didn’t comply as electric motorcycles even e-motorcycles, then they would use those terms in the sales.
Crush the e-motorcycles and resell the legal e-bikes.
It doesn’t take much working out.
2020vision said:
It would help if the terms were better understood.
If the police resold EPAC machines, the full term for e-bikes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electri...
And then referred to those that didn t comply as electric motorcycles even e-motorcycles, then they would use those terms in the sales.
Crush the e-motorcycles and resell the legal e-bikes.
It doesn t take much working out.
Lots of EPACs are illegally modified to do more than 15mph assisted, or for more power. Or just to have a twist grip.If the police resold EPAC machines, the full term for e-bikes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electri...
And then referred to those that didn t comply as electric motorcycles even e-motorcycles, then they would use those terms in the sales.
Crush the e-motorcycles and resell the legal e-bikes.
It doesn t take much working out.
Do you want those crushed?
E-motorbikes are legal to own and use on private land. Same as kids have been legally doing motocross and trials on private circuits forever.
Some e-<two wheeled things> seized could be legal if registered and insured etc.
It is not so simple.
Thing is, it will cost money to have ebikes 'crushed'. You don't want to just lob big lithium packs in a crusher. They need to be properly recycled.
OutInTheShed said:
. You don't want to just lob big lithium packs in a crusher. They need to be properly recycled.
We have safety alerts sent to every member of staff at work when something bad has happened. Recently the compactor in the yard caught on fire.
Battery pack from a torque gun used in assembly.
3 weeks later, someone spotted the compactor smouldering.
Another battery pack.
It's not like there's no a procedure for disposing of them via the stores.
BertBert said:
Presumably they are actually recycled (the ones not sold). Crushing is just the vernacular used
Fine lines between recycling for raw materials, recycling for spare parts and 'recycling' into the used marketplace.Same as some cars actually get crushed, some are stripped for spares and some are repaired.
Seized goods, stolen recovered goods and lost property have always been sold back to the market place to some extent.
I think the big problem is that none of the seized bikes or scooters will actually be illegal.
You can thrash round your own field on anything you want. Some Surons and lots of other e motor bikes can be driven legally on the road (with reg, insurance, etc).
It's not the bike that wrong, it's the way and the place they are being ridden that is the problem.
Maybe it would be more productive if it was the rider that was crushed instead of the bike!
You can thrash round your own field on anything you want. Some Surons and lots of other e motor bikes can be driven legally on the road (with reg, insurance, etc).
It's not the bike that wrong, it's the way and the place they are being ridden that is the problem.
Maybe it would be more productive if it was the rider that was crushed instead of the bike!
OutInTheShed said:
2020vision said:
It would help if the terms were better understood.
If the police resold EPAC machines, the full term for e-bikes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electri...
And then referred to those that didn t comply as electric motorcycles even e-motorcycles, then they would use those terms in the sales.
Crush the e-motorcycles and resell the legal e-bikes.
It doesn t take much working out.
Lots of EPACs are illegally modified to do more than 15mph assisted, or for more power. Or just to have a twist grip.If the police resold EPAC machines, the full term for e-bikes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electri...
And then referred to those that didn t comply as electric motorcycles even e-motorcycles, then they would use those terms in the sales.
Crush the e-motorcycles and resell the legal e-bikes.
It doesn t take much working out.
Do you want those crushed?
E-motorbikes are legal to own and use on private land. Same as kids have been legally doing motocross and trials on private circuits forever.
Some e-<two wheeled things> seized could be legal if registered and insured etc.
It is not so simple.
Thing is, it will cost money to have ebikes 'crushed'. You don't want to just lob big lithium packs in a crusher. They need to be properly recycled.
A modified EPAC is not a legal one - crusher
An e-motorcycle used unlawfully-crusher
Dispose of the batteries or recycle properly.
Part of the crusher routine is to deny the unlawful use and to deter those who use them by upsetting them and costing them to replace the bikes.
If social workers want to get involved by stroking criminal egos and handing out courses let them, but an effective deterrent administered by police and courts should leave flower-arranging alone and remove the tools of the criminal quickly and cheaply.
2020vision said:
It is simple for the not-so-simple who joy in being obtuse.
A modified EPAC is not a legal one - crusher
An e-motorcycle used unlawfully-crusher
Dispose of the batteries or recycle properly.
Part of the crusher routine is to deny the unlawful use and to deter those who use them by upsetting them and costing them to replace the bikes.
If social workers want to get involved by stroking criminal egos and handing out courses let them, but an effective deterrent administered by police and courts should leave flower-arranging alone and remove the tools of the criminal quickly and cheaply.
Unfortunately it is not that simple because you haven't taken into account two important factors. Firstly, that every bike crushed will just be replaced with another bike stolen from a legal owner who has spent their hard earned cash on it. And secondly you're forgetting that a lot of the bikes you want crushed will be stolen anyway so should be returned to their rightful owner.A modified EPAC is not a legal one - crusher
An e-motorcycle used unlawfully-crusher
Dispose of the batteries or recycle properly.
Part of the crusher routine is to deny the unlawful use and to deter those who use them by upsetting them and costing them to replace the bikes.
If social workers want to get involved by stroking criminal egos and handing out courses let them, but an effective deterrent administered by police and courts should leave flower-arranging alone and remove the tools of the criminal quickly and cheaply.
Whilst I sort of agree with you, unfortunately it will nether deter or upset the scumbags using them illegally and it certainly won't be costing them to replace it.
2020vision said:
It is simple for the not-so-simple who joy in being obtuse.
A modified EPAC is not a legal one - crusher
An e-motorcycle used unlawfully-crusher
Dispose of the batteries or recycle properly.
Part of the crusher routine is to deny the unlawful use and to deter those who use them by upsetting them and costing them to replace the bikes.
If social workers want to get involved by stroking criminal egos and handing out courses let them, but an effective deterrent administered by police and courts should leave flower-arranging alone and remove the tools of the criminal quickly and cheaply.
Why deny the use of a seized bike to someone who is going to use it legally once purchased from such an auction? Reuse is better than recycling.A modified EPAC is not a legal one - crusher
An e-motorcycle used unlawfully-crusher
Dispose of the batteries or recycle properly.
Part of the crusher routine is to deny the unlawful use and to deter those who use them by upsetting them and costing them to replace the bikes.
If social workers want to get involved by stroking criminal egos and handing out courses let them, but an effective deterrent administered by police and courts should leave flower-arranging alone and remove the tools of the criminal quickly and cheaply.
None of these bikes are illegal. The only illegal thing about them is how they were operated. No reason they shouldnt be sold on if they cant be reunited with whoever they were stolen from.
The government love an environmental issue if they can tax it,but have no qualms wasting finite resources and embedded energy when it suits them.
The government love an environmental issue if they can tax it,but have no qualms wasting finite resources and embedded energy when it suits them.
t then they should be resold and the money used for somethign else. There are legal ways to use the bikes.119 said:
Crush the lot of them that are seized.
If they were stolen the actual owners would or should have had them insured and be on a new one anyway.
Its disproportionately expensive to insure offroad bikes for theft, because they are a massive target for scum.If they were stolen the actual owners would or should have had them insured and be on a new one anyway.
Only a complete bellend would wish further harm on the victims of crime.
Why not just crush the thieves?
The figures quoted on that article are way off, it's a lot more than that being sold.
Not all police forces resell them, some insist all are destroyed.
Lancashire and Merseyside for instance, they will even destroy a brand new Motocross bike if it's been seized for use on the roads.
Same with cars, thousands are resold each year and thousands are destroyed. The relevant police force decides the outcome.
Not all police forces resell them, some insist all are destroyed.
Lancashire and Merseyside for instance, they will even destroy a brand new Motocross bike if it's been seized for use on the roads.
Same with cars, thousands are resold each year and thousands are destroyed. The relevant police force decides the outcome.
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