Recommend Solicitor for making allegation and hand holding
Recommend Solicitor for making allegation and hand holding
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carinaman

Original Poster:

24,172 posts

194 months

Monday 15th January 2024
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Can any PHers recommend a Solicitor to assist with making an allegation (statute not common law) and hand holding at police station?

Hants./Berks./West Sussex area or South Wales.

ED209

5,999 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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Why do you need a solicitor to help you make an allegation? What crime are you reporting?

NFT

1,324 posts

44 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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Gives me the impression its something quite serious, possibly severe abuse of some kind, sorry to hear about this.

Hopefully someone will come along.

Nibbles_bits

1,942 posts

61 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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ED209 said:
Why do you need a solicitor to help you make an allegation? What crime are you reporting?
Does seem odd

NFT

1,324 posts

44 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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Nibbles_bits said:
Does seem odd
I was thinking statutory something possibly. But am a little confused, which is likely to be expected.

whimsical ninja

251 posts

49 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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Assuming this is as it reads, then there's little point in bringing a solicitor to make an allegation. If you have problems communicating, then by all means bring a friend/family member etc, but the police should be able to deal with communication difficulties in any event. Solicitors can't do much - it's your allegation after all.

If you mean an allegation has been made against you and you've been invited in for an interview under caution, contact whoever invited you in as you'll have the right to a (free) solicitor for the interview. The police will arrange this in advance, just let them know you want one.

SeekerOfTruthAndPies

266 posts

59 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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You won't need a Solicitor to assist if you're making an allegation/complaint, you might need one if you're attending the Police Station because of an allegation/complaint.

carinaman

Original Poster:

24,172 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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NFT said:
Gives me the impression its something quite serious, possibly severe abuse of some kind, sorry to hear about this.

Hopefully someone will come along.
Thanks NFT.

skwdenyer

18,511 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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whimsical ninja said:
Assuming this is as it reads, then there's little point in bringing a solicitor to make an allegation. If you have problems communicating, then by all means bring a friend/family member etc, but the police should be able to deal with communication difficulties in any event. Solicitors can't do much - it's your allegation after all.
It may be that a solicitor properly-versed in the relevant area might ensure the OP’s interests are represented by getting the language right, communicating to Police the seriousness and/or (if an allegation supported only at this stage by recollection) veracity of the complaint, and ensuring the OP does not get sucked into (for instance) victim-blaming, or the matter trivialised, or what have you.

It may be the OP does not wish family or friends to know of the nature or existence of the allegation.

We commonly use solicitors to write letters before action in civil cases. It isn’t to my mind odd to want an analogous service in a criminal matter, to protect and project the OP’s interests.

I’m sorry, OP, I don’t have any recommendations. But I fully grasp why you might want this, and wish you well in getting what you need.

carinaman

Original Poster:

24,172 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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skwdenyer said:
I’m sorry, OP, I don’t have any recommendations. But I fully grasp why you might want this, and wish you well in getting what you need.


You're quite on point.

It's about an offspring who really should know better taking advantage of a vulnerable elderly relative and controlling that relative to the extent of interfering with the Lasting Power Attorney(LPA), raising the suspicions of the Legal Executive that drafted it and causing another draft of the LPA so that the offender got the LPA changed so they were on the LPA for Property and Finance. It's my understanding that if the first draft had been registered getting the donor to change it would've been Elder Abuse. The offenders seem to be playing the capacity issue and have kept the victim away from the Doctors so the issue of whether the victim has capacity or not hasn't been queried or spotted.

Having inadvertently learnt of their cynical and exploitative scam the offspring has made threats including one in an Email.

The offspring and their partner seem well connected with local police, attending the funeral of a Cop and spotting a Cop in a photo of me with a group of other people.



Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 16th January 12:38

OutInTheShed

12,802 posts

48 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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Doesn't the law society have a list of solicitors with specialisms?
I'd look for one local who does a lot of work in this area of law.

Also Age Concern, CAB maybe.

agtlaw

7,273 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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carinaman said:
Can any PHers recommend a Solicitor to assist with making an allegation (statute not common law) and hand holding at police station?

Hants./Berks./West Sussex area or South Wales.
Statute not common law? So not murder, manslaughter or PCJ (all examples of common law offences). Unsure why the distinction is important in the context of your post. In any event, I don't know any solicitors who could help with this.


paintman

7,846 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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carinaman said:
It's about an offspring who really should know better taking advantage of a vulnerable elderly relative and controlling that relative to the extent of interfering with the Lasting Power Attorney(LPA), raising the suspicions of the Legal Executive that drafted it and causing another draft of the LPA so that the offender got the LPA changed so they were on the LPA for Property and Finance. It's my understanding that if the first draft had been registered getting the donor to change it would've been Elder Abuse. The offenders seem to be playing the capacity issue and have kept the victim away from the Doctors so the issue of whether the victim has capacity or not hasn't been queried or spotted.

Having inadvertently learnt of their cynical and exploitative scam the offspring has made threats including one in an Email.

The offspring and their partner seem well connected with local police, attending the funeral of a Cop and spotting a Cop in a photo of me with a group of other people.



Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 16th January 12:38
I rather think it's to do with a belief that the Police are mates with the alleged offender(s) and will inevitably try to help cover it up so wants a legally qualified person present to witness what's said.
I'm probably being over cynical, but it is carinaman.

Good luck with it though.

Zeeky

2,954 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th January 2024
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Apart from the threats made by email, based on the information given, it's difficult to see what offence the 'offender' has committed.

The 'offender' appears to have been unhappy with the arrangements in the first draft of the LPA and has persuaded the donor to amend it.

This is a Court of Protection issue and, at this point, you are best advised seeking a specialist in that area, rather than redress for the 'offender's' apparent bad behaviour under the criminal law.

Earthdweller

17,302 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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paintman said:
carinaman said:
It's about an offspring who really should know better taking advantage of a vulnerable elderly relative and controlling that relative to the extent of interfering with the Lasting Power Attorney(LPA), raising the suspicions of the Legal Executive that drafted it and causing another draft of the LPA so that the offender got the LPA changed so they were on the LPA for Property and Finance. It's my understanding that if the first draft had been registered getting the donor to change it would've been Elder Abuse. The offenders seem to be playing the capacity issue and have kept the victim away from the Doctors so the issue of whether the victim has capacity or not hasn't been queried or spotted.

Having inadvertently learnt of their cynical and exploitative scam the offspring has made threats including one in an Email.

The offspring and their partner seem well connected with local police, attending the funeral of a Cop and spotting a Cop in a photo of me with a group of other people.



Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 16th January 12:38
I rather think it's to do with a belief that the Police are mates with the alleged offender(s) and will inevitably try to help cover it up so wants a legally qualified person present to witness what's said.
I'm probably being over cynical, but it is carinaman.

Good luck with it though.
I doubt your cynicism is misplaced and I’m not even convinced that this is a matter for the Police based on the very limited information provided

However, in making an allegation to the Police the OP has three options

1. Online reporting
2. By telephone
3. Attending a Police station in person

All three options above will almost certainly result in a civilian employee recording the allegation ( or not ) and passing it to a crime evaluator to assess and it will only be after that assessment that the complainant will get contact from the Police and that will most likely a letter saying it’s not being investigated/crimed or stating that it has been passed to an investigating officer (IO) for further enquiries

When the IO ( who may still not be a Police officer ) contacts the complainant then further more detailed information can be discussed

Making an initial allegation does not require attendance of a solicitor in any case

alscar

7,780 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th January 2024
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If the LPA “second draft “has now been registered with the OPG and you as a relative or friend are concerned that it has the potential to be abused ( I’m assuming you have a copy of said LPA ) then at this stage I very much doubt the Police will be remotely interested given as yet no crime has presumably yet been committed beyond the threatening email which again I doubt their workload will dictate any time spent looking at.
Given other threads recently where it looked like the LPA had been abused and money had been taken etc I think your first step should be to contact the OPG and / or a Solicitor.