Threats to kill
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MrJuice

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3,770 posts

178 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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A friend of mine was threatened to be kneecapped, killed for £250 and sworn at by a third party I know to be a disgusting narcissist

This all happened during a phone conversation which I don't think was recorded. I do believe it was all said as described. My friend is a very honest guy


Friend has reported this to the police, has a crime reference number and will be speaking to police in person soon.

Is this likely to cause the third party to get in trouble?


rallye101

2,511 posts

219 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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£250 is cheap!!!!!

The police will investigate.....

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46,862 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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MrJuice said:
Friend has reported this to the police, has a crime reference number and will be speaking to police in person soon.

Is this likely to cause the third party to get in trouble?
It depends on what the 3rd party says to the Police

E.g.1 "Yes I just need to get the £250 together and speak to my mate "Kneecaps O'Reilly" and then he gonna do him proppa" = likely to get into trouble

E.g.2 "No, never heard of this bloke in my life. By the way you couldn't lend me £250 could you?" = probably be fine

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46,862 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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MrJuice said:
A friend of mine was threatened to be kneecapped, killed for £250 and sworn at by a third party I know to be a disgusting narcissist

This all happened during a phone conversation which I don't think was recorded. I do believe it was all said as described. My friend is a very honest guy


Friend has reported this to the police, has a crime reference number and will be speaking to police in person soon.

Is this likely to cause the third party to get in trouble?
Out of interest was the kneecapping free? Or was it some kind of BOGOF "pay for the murder and we'll throw in a free kneecapping"?

Gerradi

1,910 posts

142 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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Don't worry Juicy the PH Heavies will source a few Powerfully built directors with special set of skills , ie : defending the stairs whilst the lower NED's will bring the frozen sausages ....you'll be fine...

Caddyshack

13,605 posts

228 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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I had this from a nasty bloke. I told a friend who told a friend and they paid the bloke a visit, he went from nasty hard man to crying baby in seconds….a lot of people are all talk, the tricky bit is not knowing who is genuine.

carlo996

6,815 posts

43 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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MrJuice said:
A friend of mine was threatened to be kneecapped, killed for £250 and sworn at by a third party I know to be a disgusting narcissist

This all happened during a phone conversation which I don't think was recorded. I do believe it was all said as described. My friend is a very honest guy


Friend has reported this to the police, has a crime reference number and will be speaking to police in person soon.

Is this likely to cause the third party to get in trouble?
I guess the thing is, really violent people who do bad things for money are a. invisible, and b. not cheap.

rallye101

2,511 posts

219 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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carlo996 said:
I guess the thing is, really violent people who do bad things for money are a. invisible, and b. not cheap.
Geoff said £275 final offer

NikBartlett

687 posts

103 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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MrJuice said:
A friend of mine was threatened to be kneecapped, killed for £250 and sworn at by a third party I know to be a disgusting narcissist

This all happened during a phone conversation which I don't think was recorded. I do believe it was all said as described. My friend is a very honest guy


Friend has reported this to the police, has a crime reference number and will be speaking to police in person soon.

Is this likely to cause the third party to get in trouble?
I would be a bit hacked off if some low life decided I was only worth a £250 price on my head.

Oceanrower

1,238 posts

134 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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Was the kneecapping due to be before the killing or after?

I think it would make a big difference…

rallye101

2,511 posts

219 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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rallye101 said:
Geoff said £275 final offer
Sorry, he's not called Geoff.....

Craig said 275.....st!!!!

Nibbles_bits

1,942 posts

61 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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MrJuice said:
A friend of mine was threatened to be kneecapped, killed for £250 and sworn at by a third party I know to be a disgusting narcissist

This all happened during a phone conversation which I don't think was recorded. I do believe it was all said as described. My friend is a very honest guy


Friend has reported this to the police, has a crime reference number and will be speaking to police in person soon.

Is this likely to cause the third party to get in trouble?
Rule number 1 - DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE

Pit Pony

10,681 posts

143 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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I have worked in factories all my life. I've kind of concluded there is a bloke usually called Danny in every factory who knows a bloke who knows another bloke who will kneecap, or murder any stranger for money.
Depending on how much he likes violence and how much Danny likes you, and is prepared to vouch for you, he might do it as a cash in hand job for minimum wage. Or he might set up an escrow account and give you a quote for tree surgery and the price will include sorting out the dodgy looking trees at the end of your garden. That way he can legitimately put the money in his account, and pay the correct Tax on it.

MrJuice

Original Poster:

3,770 posts

178 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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This guy has made threats a way of life. He usually makes them to people who listen to him so he's used to making threats cos they're usually lapped up

Now he's made a threat to someone who's not a hard man but is intelligent and is doing the sensible thing by reporting it to plod. My friend has no intention of ever speaking to the third party again but feels this stuff needs to be on file. Let's see if it goes anywhere

Tom1312

1,167 posts

168 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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carlo996 said:
I guess the thing is, really violent people who do bad things for money are a. invisible, and b. not cheap.
You'd think this, but in reality the value some people put on a life is depressingly low.

I've been to what ended up as murders over as little as a £20 drugs debt.

OP if you're friend genuinely believes these threats to be genuine, then it's likely the person making the threats will be contacted by the Police as a result. Certainly from what you've said anyway.

KTMsm

28,982 posts

285 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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I had someone threaten to kill me over writing them an honest but negative review

He was a recovery driver and had been to my house

He wasn't the brightest as he used his own phone and sent them in multiple texts

I had his name, phone number and business address - the police were absolutely useless and wasted hours of my time and ultimately did bugger all

One of the conversations went along the lines of they didn't have enough information to locate him - unless I could supply his date of birth

FFS !

They then said that as I had called the local police and he lived in Yorkshire, that it was too far for them to travel.

I suggested they called him and arranged for him to recover a car from an address near the Police station - They said they couldn't do that as it was entrapment

There's a reason people break and ignore laws because the police are absolutely useless - unless you're speeding IME

hidetheelephants

33,178 posts

215 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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Pit Pony said:
I have worked in factories all my life. I've kind of concluded there is a bloke usually called Danny in every factory who knows a bloke who knows another bloke who will kneecap, or murder any stranger for money.
Depending on how much he likes violence and how much Danny likes you, and is prepared to vouch for you, he might do it as a cash in hand job for minimum wage. Or he might set up an escrow account and give you a quote for tree surgery and the price will include sorting out the dodgy looking trees at the end of your garden. That way he can legitimately put the money in his account, and pay the correct Tax on it.
Don't assassins ask for bitcoin these days? silly

Pit Pony

10,681 posts

143 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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hidetheelephants said:
Don't assassins ask for bitcoin these days? silly
Probably just ask for likes on thier YT channel.

NFT

1,324 posts

44 months

Saturday 27th January 2024
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MrJuice said:
This guy has made threats a way of life. He usually makes them to people who listen to him so he's used to making threats cos they're usually lapped up

Now he's made a threat to someone who's not a hard man but is intelligent and is doing the sensible thing by reporting it to plod. My friend has no intention of ever speaking to the third party again but feels this stuff needs to be on file. Let's see if it goes anywhere
Write any changes to mental health/impact etc down, if you witnessed call and he became upset/anxious etc.. write it down, and your concerns for your friend on being told, recording the richness of any underlying anxiety/upset/fear in description and proof its date, posting copy to yourself, photographs emailed to yourself etc.. friend do the same in case any later case is needed, once on file he should have a reference number, may come away with idea/be told he's being kept eye on already, could be asked questions to try get any facts that could aid other offenses. And likely be told if he bothers you again, even intimidating in street to give them a shout.

Edit: as you asked if would cause offending party grief, if you ask not to take action, its generally respected, but its on file just in case.

Edited by NFT on Saturday 27th January 21:23

Sebring440

3,033 posts

118 months