Stolen Recovered - Private plate xfer
Stolen Recovered - Private plate xfer
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stargazer30

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1,692 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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Question for the font of all knowledge that is PistonHeads biggrin

My son's house got broken into, the scrotes stole all his camera gear, got his car keys and took his car too. Hes a struggling student photographer in rented with a part time job. We were totally gutted for him as they cleaned him out. We sorted a new car for him as he needed one for work. But then 2 weeks later and unexpectedly the car is recovered by the police undamaged. They'd took it to shift the gear and dumped it. The idiots also left the dash cam which has recorded their route with GPS co-ordinates too, but I digress... We are going to take the car (total banger) for number #2 son who just passed and needs a cheap/first car. We need to take the private plate off it though, so questions...

He didn't claim on his insurance, the insurance were informed but due to the low value of the car vs the sky high premiums he pays it wasn't worth it. I understand the car will be recorded as stolen recovered with no damage or claim and that marker stays. But with the private plate in the mix, how does it work?

Is the marker on the VIN and plate or just the VIN?
If we transfer his plate from the recovered fiesta to his new mini will it be an issue?
Will the marker mean son #2 will be robbed blind by the insurance when he tries to insure the car. As a new driver/19 yo we are already expecting to have to sell a kidney.


BertBert

20,799 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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Stolen/recovered market should have no bearing on insurance. It just changes the market value if a payout is needed for a claim in future versus same car without a marker.

The private plate Xfer also should not be affected.

CRA1G

7,152 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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If you haven't made a claim there shouldn't be a marker placed on the car?

poo at Paul's

14,535 posts

197 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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Any marker will be on the vehicle not the plate. Why will the plate move off the car if it is staying in family? Is it "the other son's". If so, so long as beater car is MOTd still, transfer it over now is my advice, then get a new number for the beater and get that on. You will get a cert if you do it all online to have new plates made for the beater. Any marker will not affect things.

stargazer30

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1,692 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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CRA1G said:
If you haven't made a claim there shouldn't be a marker placed on the car?
The police do this via the dvla. Insurance were informed but the claim was cancelled.

stargazer30

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1,692 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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poo at Paul's said:
Any marker will be on the vehicle not the plate. Why will the plate move off the car if it is staying in family? Is it "the other son's". If so, so long as beater car is MOTd still, transfer it over now is my advice, then get a new number for the beater and get that on. You will get a cert if you do it all online to have new plates made for the beater. Any marker will not affect things.
That’s what we want to do, put the private plate on #1 sons new mini and return the fiesta banger car back to its original plate. We were just not sure if we can do it online due to the stolen/recovered marker. Looks like we can though biggrin

CRA1G

7,152 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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stargazer30 said:
CRA1G said:
If you haven't made a claim there shouldn't be a marker placed on the car?
The police do this via the dvla. Insurance were informed but the claim was cancelled.
Exactly,so there won't be a marker on the vehicle as there's not been a claim made against it.

Dog Star

17,241 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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CRA1G said:
Exactly,so there won't be a marker on the vehicle as there's not been a claim made against it.
The marker the police put on it - which should now be cleared - is nothing to do with the stolen/recovered HPI marker. The car will be clear.

CRA1G

7,152 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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Dog Star said:
CRA1G said:
Exactly,so there won't be a marker on the vehicle as there's not been a claim made against it.
The marker the police put on it - which should now be cleared - is nothing to do with the stolen/recovered HPI marker. The car will be clear.
Exactly what I've said..

Durzel

12,942 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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CRA1G said:
Dog Star said:
CRA1G said:
Exactly,so there won't be a marker on the vehicle as there's not been a claim made against it.
The marker the police put on it - which should now be cleared - is nothing to do with the stolen/recovered HPI marker. The car will be clear.
Exactly what I've said..
I think there is some confusion about a "known to Police" marker that the Police might put on the car (or rather, the plate) so that if it's spotted out and about they might wish to stop it, and a "Stolen/Recovered" write off status placed on record by the insurance, in the event of a claim where there was a total loss payout.

Two completely different things.

That being said - the OP appears to be talking about the insurance variety, and as far as I know there should be no marker applied to a car where no claim has been made.

Dog Star

17,241 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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CRA1G said:
Exactly what I've said..
I was just agreeing and expanding on what you’d said.

NFT

1,324 posts

44 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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Are police markers just tied to the VRM?

Always wondered if it gets updated for any retention/change, or if any car the Private Reg is on then pings ANPR.

Bigends

6,002 posts

150 months

Friday 23rd February 2024
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NFT said:
Are police markers just tied to the VRM?

Always wondered if it gets updated for any retention/change, or if any car the Private Reg is on then pings ANPR.
Stolen markers cover reg number and VIN as recorded by DVLA. PNC searches can be carried out on either in the event one or other is missing