Have people been caught by an average speed camera?
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The reason I ask is that they are becoming more and more common, not just in roadworks but permanent installations. I always set cruise control or keep an eye on my speedo and stay below limit+10% and so far that's worked for me. However, you always see one or two who tanking through, over and undertaking as if it doesn't apply to them. Then you get the other mob who think the yellow cameras are fixed speed traps so they speed through and hit the anchors for those only. Given how long average speed cameras have been around, it seems like these people must have had a ticket by now and learned their lessons. Makes we wonder how effective they are and what tolerances are being set?
M Daddy said:
Makes we wonder how effective they are and what tolerances are being set?
Effective at raising money or effective at slowing the traffic for the imaginary 'workforce'?I set the cruise control and just trundle through, leaving me free to admire the skill and determination of the hundreds of hard-working labourers keeping Britain's roads in tip-tip condition 24 hours a day...
I have to commute through Northampton and am reliably informed that the section of A43 towards Corby in the town although it has these cameras they are not working and have not done for years, but who wants to test that.
Let's be fair they are a great deterrent, but in some cases they go up BEFORE the roadworks in some places, you can see the priority, the M42 the cameras where there before the sodding place was coned off the pathetic "well will be here for years " grunts village"" was built.
it is mainly to do with profit, then to do with insurance, (we cant have people being hurt and claiming off us" and that is linked to safety, but the primary reason is to slow people down, make journies longer more frustrating and eventually coax you out of your car. this is the reason I believe behind all roadworks and traffic governance in this country and has been for quite some time.
Let's be fair they are a great deterrent, but in some cases they go up BEFORE the roadworks in some places, you can see the priority, the M42 the cameras where there before the sodding place was coned off the pathetic "well will be here for years " grunts village"" was built.
it is mainly to do with profit, then to do with insurance, (we cant have people being hurt and claiming off us" and that is linked to safety, but the primary reason is to slow people down, make journies longer more frustrating and eventually coax you out of your car. this is the reason I believe behind all roadworks and traffic governance in this country and has been for quite some time.
M Daddy said:
The reason I ask is that they are becoming more and more common, not just in roadworks but permanent installations. I always set cruise control or keep an eye on my speedo and stay below limit+10% and so far that's worked for me. However, you always see one or two who tanking through, over and undertaking as if it doesn't apply to them. Then you get the other mob who think the yellow cameras are fixed speed traps so they speed through and hit the anchors for those only. Given how long average speed cameras have been around, it seems like these people must have had a ticket by now and learned their lessons. Makes we wonder how effective they are and what tolerances are being set?
Same and never had a ticket. Pain in the ass and yes they seem to be appearing everywhere now incl normal roads so not just roadworks. What annoys me about them is it's not always clear where they end so you end up driving for miles and miles at the limit unnecessarily!TX.
M Daddy said:
The reason I ask is that they are becoming more and more common, not just in roadworks but permanent installations. I always set cruise control or keep an eye on my speedo and stay below limit+10% and so far that's worked for me. However, you always see one or two who tanking through, over and undertaking as if it doesn't apply to them. Then you get the other mob who think the yellow cameras are fixed speed traps so they speed through and hit the anchors for those only. Given how long average speed cameras have been around, it seems like these people must have had a ticket by now and learned their lessons. Makes we wonder how effective they are and what tolerances are being set?
According to Hampshire Police, 9453 drivers received points, fines or both on the M27 stretch in 3 years. Plus 13000 were given SACs, so I reckon you’d be pretty daft to ignore average speed cameras these days.Terminator X said:
M Daddy said:
The reason I ask is that they are becoming more and more common, not just in roadworks but permanent installations. I always set cruise control or keep an eye on my speedo and stay below limit+10% and so far that's worked for me. However, you always see one or two who tanking through, over and undertaking as if it doesn't apply to them. Then you get the other mob who think the yellow cameras are fixed speed traps so they speed through and hit the anchors for those only. Given how long average speed cameras have been around, it seems like these people must have had a ticket by now and learned their lessons. Makes we wonder how effective they are and what tolerances are being set?
Same and never had a ticket. Pain in the ass and yes they seem to be appearing everywhere now incl normal roads so not just roadworks. What annoys me about them is it's not always clear where they end so you end up driving for miles and miles at the limit unnecessarily!TX.
Surely any area of enforcement needs to be clearly marked so that people know whether they made it out by midnight or need to pay another £12.50?
Are they just trying to prevent 'racing to the edge'? Because not having the signs just encourages racing as far and as fast as possible till one is *definitely* clear of it.
I guess it would suit Khan quite nicely to have people paying more money unnecessarily...
Not just M ways, they have sprung up all along the A683 between us and Devils bridge, probably because of the bikers 'enjoying' the nice fast sweeping section of roads.
Ruined a nice drive.
The wife's Peugeot has a nice feature in that it recognises them and puts your average speed on the screen so you can compensate for the slower bits
Ruined a nice drive.
The wife's Peugeot has a nice feature in that it recognises them and puts your average speed on the screen so you can compensate for the slower bits

Edited by Gary C on Sunday 25th February 14:00
We have a 50 average for several miles I go through most days on cruise at 55 no issues. However I got a SAC for 36 in an average 30 on the A303 roadworks at 7:30am on Christmas eve. Annoyed at that one as it was 50-30-50 and the 30 was a short bit in the middle. If there had been traffic or works or any difference in the road I might have noticed.
Thanks for the replies, all. Well I guess they do work then and judging by reports +10% is the max safe average. I can live with them when everyone tows the line but it does make me wonder how the occasional one or two plough through as if they know something the rest of us don't. I agree that things have gotton way out of control with the proliferation of cameras.
flatlandsman said:
...it is mainly to do with profit, then to do with insurance, (we cant have people being hurt and claiming off us" and that is linked to safety, but the primary reason is to slow people down, make journies longer more frustrating and eventually coax you out of your car. this is the reason I believe behind all roadworks and traffic governance in this country and has been for quite some time.

Classic, all road works are hoaxes to control the people.
More seriously, the permanent specs installations on many of Scotland's trunk routes are an absolute scourge.
These roads have gone from traffic being nicely spaced out, with some people going faster and some going slower than the limit, but with everyone staying far enough away from each other to provide a nice risk buffer.
Nowadays, everyone sets their cruise control on 70 (or whatever the limit is) and bunch together. The result is long empty stretches of road with small bunched gaggles of cars every so often.
This has made driving up there way more stressful and dangerous than it used to be.
These roads have gone from traffic being nicely spaced out, with some people going faster and some going slower than the limit, but with everyone staying far enough away from each other to provide a nice risk buffer.
Nowadays, everyone sets their cruise control on 70 (or whatever the limit is) and bunch together. The result is long empty stretches of road with small bunched gaggles of cars every so often.
This has made driving up there way more stressful and dangerous than it used to be.
M Daddy said:
you always see one or two who tanking through, over and undertaking as if it doesn't apply to them.
Around 40% of offences captured by speed cameras do not result in a fine or speed awareness course.Maybe the drivers you mention are in that 40%?
https://speedcamerareport.co.uk/effects-of-speed-c...
And, yes.
A colleague was done for 46 on the M4 into London.
So they are on (sometimes?), and they prosecute from at least 10% + 2.
They do work !!
Knock yourself out if you think otherwise...got done by 1 about 2.5 years ago...favourite stretch of road it was always turned off during lockdown until they decided to turn it back on...3 points & £100 fine later still have another few months for the points to drop off my licence!
Friend at work recently got done for 47 in a 40 2 days running in London he got 6 points!
Knock yourself out if you think otherwise...got done by 1 about 2.5 years ago...favourite stretch of road it was always turned off during lockdown until they decided to turn it back on...3 points & £100 fine later still have another few months for the points to drop off my licence!
Friend at work recently got done for 47 in a 40 2 days running in London he got 6 points!
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