NIP for numberplate. What next?

[R6tty]

Got an NIP through the post for 'keep a vehicle when registration mark fails to conform with the regulations'.
First step is filling in the 'who was driving' part. It was parked at the side of the road. There was no driver. I was out, in another vehicle.
How do I fill that in?

[worsy]

R6tty said:

Got an NIP through the post for 'keep a vehicle when registration mark fails to conform with the regulations'.
First step is filling in the 'who was driving' part. It was parked at the side of the road. There was no driver. I was out, in another vehicle.
How do I fill that in?

Who parked it there then? If it was you, I would suggest you put R6tty on the form. Being a smartarse will cost you 6 points.

[paddy1970]

Complete the form accurately but in the driver section, clearly state "VEHICLE WAS PARKED AND UNATTENDED"

[R6tty]

Not being a smartarse. Genuine question. If that's the answer, then OK.

[R6tty]

paddy1970 said:

Complete the form accurately but in the driver section, clearly state "VEHICLE WAS PARKED AND UNATTENDED"

There doesn't seem to be that option. I've tried phoning them....

[R6tty]

Not sure how I can be laible for points for a non-driving offence. Early days.

[CoreyDog]

R6tty said:

Not sure how I can be laible for points for a non-driving offence. Early days.

It’s just a fine for the plate, the points would come if you failed to identify the driver/who parked it.

[R6tty]

CoreyDog said:

It’s just a fine for the plate, the points would come if you failed to identify the driver/who parked it.

OK. No problem then.

Does anyone know if this will be fixed or can I plead my case?

[Yellow Lizud]

Does the 'registration mark fail to conform with the regulations'. ?

[journeymanpro]

What case will you plead? It either conforms or it doesn't.

[R6tty]

The only thing I can see is that they don't have a postcode on them. Otherwise, clean and legal. Been MOT'd twice in my ownership. Not the sort of thing you'd notice.
There is, however, quite a lot of 'for f~ck's sake, can't you lot go and fight crime'.
Hey ho.

[E-bmw]

R6tty said:

CoreyDog said:

It’s just a fine for the plate, the points would come if you failed to identify the driver/who parked it.

OK. No problem then.

Does anyone know if this will be fixed or can I plead my case?

It is written in stone if already sent out.

Had one a while ago for my plates which I bought in good faith as legal plates alas the supplier got the spacing wrong on one of them.

[vonhosen]

R6tty said:

The only thing I can see is that they don't have a postcode on them. Otherwise, clean and legal. Been MOT'd twice in my ownership. Not the sort of thing you'd notice.
There is, however, quite a lot of 'for f~ck's sake, can't you lot go and fight crime'.
Hey ho.

If they don't satisfy all the requirements they are non-compliant.
No Post Codes = Non compliant.

[R6tty]

journeymanpro said:

What case will you plead? It either conforms or it doesn't.

You are correct. They do not conform. But I've run it past a few people who had no idea. Not the sort of thing you'd be expected to know, and a true 'victimless crime'.
I'll see what the 'charge' is.

[R6tty]

I think that I'm peeved at being lumped in with obviously illegal plates. My offence wasn't wilfull.
I'll take the fine ultimately.

[B'stard Child]

vonhosen said:

R6tty said:

The only thing I can see is that they don't have a postcode on them. Otherwise, clean and legal. Been MOT'd twice in my ownership. Not the sort of thing you'd notice.
There is, however, quite a lot of 'for f~ck's sake, can't you lot go and fight crime'.
Hey ho.

If they don't satisfy all the requirements they are non-compliant.
No Post Codes = Non compliant.

I'm going to disagree - AFAIK they did not make the rules on post code / Maker Name BS Std retrospectively applied to number plates made before the rule change

I have 3 cars with original plates that would not comply with the post code / makers BS std rules - one of them has plastic raised letters on a aluminum backing plate

[R6tty]

That's interesting. Thank you.The plates look modern and have some sort of BS number in small print.

[R6tty]

I will look into this further.
As I see it, at this point there is no discussion. Looks like I have to go along with being the 'driver'. All a bit wrong in my book.
Will have to see what the offence is later, but can only think postcode. I think it's madness.

[vonhosen]

B'stard Child said:

vonhosen said:

R6tty said:

The only thing I can see is that they don't have a postcode on them. Otherwise, clean and legal. Been MOT'd twice in my ownership. Not the sort of thing you'd notice.
There is, however, quite a lot of 'for f~ck's sake, can't you lot go and fight crime'.
Hey ho.

If they don't satisfy all the requirements they are non-compliant.
No Post Codes = Non compliant.

I'm going to disagree - AFAIK they did not make the rules on post code / Maker Name BS Std retrospectively applied to number plates made before the rule change

I have 3 cars with original plates that would not comply with the post code / makers BS std rules - one of them has plastic raised letters on a aluminum backing plate

Well yes of course it depends on which BSAU145 version is applicable to the plates as to whether post codes are required.
So I should have expressed more clearly when I said that where they don't satisfy all the requirements they are non compliant, so that means where post codes are one of those requirements & they aren't present, then they are non-compliant.
For the majority of vehicles on our roads post codes will be necessary for compliance & if they are looking to report him for it, it's a good bet that his vehicle falls into that scope.

As an aside it's not an offence to which s1 RTOA 1988 (NIPs) applies.

Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 6th March 17:44

[Yellow Lizud]

Considering the thousands of obviously non-conforming plates, if someone has reported a plate for not having a post code on it, then the world has truly gone mad.