Quick will explanation please
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Long long story but very quickly just got this doc off the probate service and to me it suggests
Person A was the sole administrator of the deceased.
Their job was to settle the estate and provide persons b and c with the £13000 (administrator is not one of the beneficiaries)
Am I right?
First time we are seeing this will as my wife (beneficiary) has never bothered before
Person A was the sole administrator of the deceased.
Their job was to settle the estate and provide persons b and c with the £13000 (administrator is not one of the beneficiaries)
Am I right?
First time we are seeing this will as my wife (beneficiary) has never bothered before
Hi there ...... it is difficult to give you guidance from the document you have posted. Do you have a copy of the Will?
You state that Person A was appointed as Administrator and that Persons B & C were the sole beneficiaries of the Will.
I presume you are contesting where the £13,000 has gone. To do so you need a copy of the Will to prove what you appear to be claiming.
If the Administrator has not carried out the deceased instructions as set out in the Will then they can be in a great deal of trouble.
Without wishing you to post on an open forum any information which may be private & confidential it is difficult to give you further advice until you clearly state and have proof of the contents of the Will.
Jumping to the 'end game' ...... if you can prove your case, then contact should be made with the Administrator to recover the money. Do this in a friendly manner initially BUT make it abundantly clear that if the matter is not resolved within 14 days then you will hand the matter over to the legal authorities and then let the matter run its legal course with no further direct communication from the beneficiaries. Unless the Administrator is stupid they will realise that this will end very badly for them.
You state that Person A was appointed as Administrator and that Persons B & C were the sole beneficiaries of the Will.
I presume you are contesting where the £13,000 has gone. To do so you need a copy of the Will to prove what you appear to be claiming.
If the Administrator has not carried out the deceased instructions as set out in the Will then they can be in a great deal of trouble.
Without wishing you to post on an open forum any information which may be private & confidential it is difficult to give you further advice until you clearly state and have proof of the contents of the Will.
Jumping to the 'end game' ...... if you can prove your case, then contact should be made with the Administrator to recover the money. Do this in a friendly manner initially BUT make it abundantly clear that if the matter is not resolved within 14 days then you will hand the matter over to the legal authorities and then let the matter run its legal course with no further direct communication from the beneficiaries. Unless the Administrator is stupid they will realise that this will end very badly for them.
Steve Dean said:
The administrator is the husband of my wife's mother (no relation) and since her death we have been very close and helped him immensely to integrate with his locals as he became very isolated. In the past 2 years he has met another woman and become very distant. He lives with her now and seldom visits the old home. Never calls us etc and, tbh, we gave up bothering. He seems to have moved on and was happy.
Back in 2016 their house was transferred to my wife and her brother to hold in trust for the 3 grandkids with the couple allowed to remain until their death or they declared no interest in the property. He has just wrote to us, via solicitors, claiming he needs money and we should sell the house and give him the money.
Clearly we are engaging with suitable solicitors but this is what has led us to go look at the will and identified, a potential, malicious move from him. With it being the weekend and unable to download the will i thought the PH massive would assist.
Thanks
I have no idea. We are contacting the solicitors who drafted this doc (and also did the TR1 form for the house) on monday. I was onlying asking what the sentence meant in that....
"For the use and benefit of A and B limited until further benefit has been granted"
Google suggests it's a temporary thing until A and B are able to receive it themselves.. well both are consenting adults. Which again confuses me more.
"For the use and benefit of A and B limited until further benefit has been granted"
Google suggests it's a temporary thing until A and B are able to receive it themselves.. well both are consenting adults. Which again confuses me more.
Edited by TheDrownedApe on Saturday 4th October 16:31
Edited by TheDrownedApe on Saturday 4th October 16:38
Hi 'TheDrownedApe',
With the greatest respect I would advise that you post no further information on this thread. Whilst there are some very helpful people on this forum, unfortunately there are others who will post very unhelpful input.
If the house is being held in Trust by your wife and her brother on behalf of the grand children then the details of this arrangement will be clearly set out in the Trust documentation. It is very strange that a solicitor would be party to writing to you with regard to the sale of property without knowing the exact details of the 'Trust' arrangement. Unless of course, if they've been given a false story.
Unfortunately involving a solicitor from your side will incur costs but is the right thing to do.
I hope that you reach a resolution in a timely and least stressful manner.
With the greatest respect I would advise that you post no further information on this thread. Whilst there are some very helpful people on this forum, unfortunately there are others who will post very unhelpful input.
If the house is being held in Trust by your wife and her brother on behalf of the grand children then the details of this arrangement will be clearly set out in the Trust documentation. It is very strange that a solicitor would be party to writing to you with regard to the sale of property without knowing the exact details of the 'Trust' arrangement. Unless of course, if they've been given a false story.
Unfortunately involving a solicitor from your side will incur costs but is the right thing to do.
I hope that you reach a resolution in a timely and least stressful manner.
Steve Dean said:
Hi 'TheDrownedApe',
With the greatest respect I would advise that you post no further information on this thread. Whilst there are some very helpful people on this forum, unfortunately there are others who will post very unhelpful input.
If the house is being held in Trust by your wife and her brother on behalf of the grand children then the details of this arrangement will be clearly set out in the Trust documentation. It is very strange that a solicitor would be party to writing to you with regard to the sale of property without knowing the exact details of the 'Trust' arrangement. Unless of course, if they've been given a false story.
Unfortunately involving a solicitor from your side will incur costs but is the right thing to do.
I hope that you reach a resolution in a timely and least stressful manner.
Yes I am aware. Just wanted to understand this documents intentions. Her waiting potentially 48hrs to speak to someone knowledgeable will be a PITA for me. With the greatest respect I would advise that you post no further information on this thread. Whilst there are some very helpful people on this forum, unfortunately there are others who will post very unhelpful input.
If the house is being held in Trust by your wife and her brother on behalf of the grand children then the details of this arrangement will be clearly set out in the Trust documentation. It is very strange that a solicitor would be party to writing to you with regard to the sale of property without knowing the exact details of the 'Trust' arrangement. Unless of course, if they've been given a false story.
Unfortunately involving a solicitor from your side will incur costs but is the right thing to do.
I hope that you reach a resolution in a timely and least stressful manner.
I think you need to gather as much information, be that documents or recollections of who was involved, what the respective relationships are, etc.as you can. A timeline of events may also help put things in sequence so any solicitor you engage is able to understand the concern or issue quickly and can advise appropriately.
I would suggest a specialist probate solicitor will be most appropriate.
I would suggest a specialist probate solicitor will be most appropriate.
That is an approved probate application which can only be granted by someone applying for it and you need to provide evidence that you are entitled to it (usually an original bound copy of the last will and testament).
When make the application, you have to state the value of the estate applied for (£13,000 in this case). The house held in trust is not part of this application and that would usually by defined in the Will which is now (following grant of probate) a publicly held document which I'm guessing you can get a look at.
When make the application, you have to state the value of the estate applied for (£13,000 in this case). The house held in trust is not part of this application and that would usually by defined in the Will which is now (following grant of probate) a publicly held document which I'm guessing you can get a look at.
VanDessel said:
That is an approved probate application which can only be granted by someone applying for it and you need to provide evidence that you are entitled to it (usually an original bound copy of the last will and testament).
When make the application, you have to state the value of the estate applied for (£13,000 in this case). The house held in trust is not part of this application and that would usually by defined in the Will which is now (following grant of probate) a publicly held document which I'm guessing you can get a look at.
Yeah but the link is broken and waiting for the probate service, or whomever manages that dept, to fix it!When make the application, you have to state the value of the estate applied for (£13,000 in this case). The house held in trust is not part of this application and that would usually by defined in the Will which is now (following grant of probate) a publicly held document which I'm guessing you can get a look at.
I understand your first sentence and the gentleman, lets call him john, was the husband. Who values the estate, john; on the basis of the deceased holdings etc?
In this instance we assumed everything in my MIL's will passed to John and therefore her children never asked to even look at the will. It's only this statement I've mentioned a number of times that leads us to believe something different, as her children are mentioned, and no one has yet indicated what it implies. Clearly until we can see a will we are in the dark.
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