Burns claim
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dba3087108

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44 posts

165 months

Monday 9th March
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My sister runs a restaurant, last week a young couple came in with their very young baby. They ordered a "sizzler platter" of steak. Obviously the dish the meat sits on is very hot. The father had the baby on his lap and a server placed the food down on the table. After a few seconds the baby decided to reach out and touch the hot plate. They now want to take legal action against the restaurant for neglect. Nothing has come through yet but I thought I'd ask the PH collective on this and who is at fault and if any damages could be claimed.

geeks

11,122 posts

162 months

Monday 9th March
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I suspect this thread will not go well

dba3087108

Original Poster:

44 posts

165 months

Monday 9th March
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My perspective is that a mother/father should be in charge at all times.
Could you sue for a child touching a broken glass they smashed or burn their hand on a hand dryer they kept their hand on? No.

Cyberprog

2,298 posts

206 months

Monday 9th March
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dba3087108 said:
My perspective is that a mother/father should be in charge at all times.
Could you sue for a child touching a broken glass they smashed or burn their hand on a hand dryer they kept their hand on? No.
Could the server have ensured that the stone (I assume) was placed out of reach of the child? Sounds like maybe they put it to one side and within the child's reach. If they could - you might have some liability. And could includes making space on the table by moving other items.

Were the couple cautioned that the stone was hot and to be careful? I'm that special kind of idiot that when someone says "the plate is hot" has to make sure by picking it up, but I've not burnt myself yet because I do a brush test first wink

Sheepshanks

39,233 posts

142 months

Monday 9th March
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dba3087108 said:
My perspective is that a mother/father should be in charge at all times.
Could you sue for a child touching a broken glass they smashed or burn their hand on a hand dryer they kept their hand on? No.
You've asked an open question but have already made up your mind.

Has your sister spoken to the business's insurer?

Vsix and Vtec

1,305 posts

41 months

Monday 9th March
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Given the father must have ordered said sizling plate, he must have known it was coming and would be placed in front of him. Restaurants provide highchairs near universally, as this is a safe and appropriate place to feed your child. It is not for the waiting staff to raise the child, nor act as parent. The father chose to keep the child on their lap rather than in an appropriate place and also made the choice of ordering something they knew would arrive deliberately on a hot iron skillet as is in keeping with the manner of serving.

TLDR: Parents failed to consider how the choices they made might pose a risk to a child they brought knowingly with them, and therefore must accept the consequences of those choices. I say parents, because the mother should have also considered if taking the child to this location and what the father ordered posed a risk and helped safeguard her child in the event that the father didn't.

E-bmw

12,232 posts

175 months

Monday 9th March
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Whilst personally I believe that ANY self-respecting parent would have been a bit more careful the little one I would have expected the server to have been MUCH more cautious & highlighted the risks or even insisted the child be in a high-chair or otherwise put well out of the way.

Yellow Lizud

2,789 posts

187 months

Monday 9th March
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People like that should not be allowed to have kids.
I would suggest the OP's sister reports them to social services.

SydneyBridge

10,963 posts

181 months

Monday 9th March
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Is there an actual injury? Cannot make a claim for anything else
Parents more neglectful than anyone else
I hope the server did warn of the hotness

Edited by SydneyBridge on Monday 9th March 17:23

paul_c123

1,848 posts

16 months

Monday 9th March
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Does your sister's restaurant have baby seats?

ScoobyChris

2,283 posts

225 months

Monday 9th March
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What was the extent of the injuries?

_Rodders_

880 posts

42 months

Monday 9th March
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I guess it's because they're often young and don't have their own kids but the number of servers who put very hot food immediately within arms reach of babies and toddlers is mind boggling.

There's nothing faster than a baby that wants decided to grab something which doesn't help.


I am alright Jack

4,181 posts

166 months

Monday 9th March
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Déjà vu maybe but I'm sure there was a very similar topic sometime over the last few months.

BertBert

20,886 posts

234 months

Monday 9th March
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I am alright Jack said:
Déjà vu maybe but I'm sure there was a very similar topic sometime over the last few months.
Yes although longer ago than a few months iirc. Opinion was divided i think half saying restaurant and server should have behaved differently and half saying parents' responsibility.

I think thechild should sue the parents myself.

119

17,091 posts

59 months

Monday 9th March
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It’s always somebody else’s fault.


Opapayer

1,137 posts

8 months

Monday 9th March
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dba3087108 said:
My sister runs a restaurant, last week a young couple came in with their very young baby. They ordered a "sizzler platter" of steak. Obviously the dish the meat sits on is very hot. The father had the baby on his lap and a server placed the food down on the table. After a few seconds the baby decided to reach out and touch the hot plate. They now want to take legal action against the restaurant for neglect. Nothing has come through yet but I thought I'd ask the PH collective on this and who is at fault and if any damages could be claimed.
They can definitely claim for damages. Whether it would be a successful claim is yet to be seen. As said above, your sister needs to speak to her insurers, tell them what happened and that there has either been a threat to sue, or an actual claim received. That’s it as far as yours or your sisters involvement goes unless and until the insurer comes back to her.

Doesn’t matter what you think should happen either.

Decky_Q

1,954 posts

200 months

Monday 9th March
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What would the financial loss be? Is the claim purely for distress? Did the child suffer burns?

dba3087108

Original Poster:

44 posts

165 months

Monday 9th March
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There was a slight red mark and the baby cried.

SydneyBridge

10,963 posts

181 months

Monday 9th March
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Not worth them claiming unless a permanent scar and parents would likely to be partly at fault

CSR Performance

335 posts

11 months

Monday 9th March
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_Rodders_ said:
I guess it's because they're often young and don't have their own kids but the number of servers who put very hot food immediately within arms reach of babies and toddlers is mind boggling.
Where is the server supposed to put it?