Rise in Speeding Fines Linked to More Drivers Law Breaking
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/articles/cm25ggyn3mxo
And the top three roads for speeding are:
When and Where Are Drivers Speeding Most?
Government data indicates that speeding is most common during night‑time hours, between 6pm and 5am, when roads are quieter and speeds tend to rise.
Vehicle‑tracking firm Quartix identified several hotspots earlier this year:
M77 Scotland: 52% of traffic exceeded the 70mph limit
B2087 East Sussex - Flimwell to Ticehurst: 41% of vehicles exceeded the posted limit
Warwickshire : Has the highest offence rate, one recorded offence for every 4.58 vehicles
Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
And the top three roads for speeding are:
When and Where Are Drivers Speeding Most?
Government data indicates that speeding is most common during night‑time hours, between 6pm and 5am, when roads are quieter and speeds tend to rise.
Vehicle‑tracking firm Quartix identified several hotspots earlier this year:
M77 Scotland: 52% of traffic exceeded the 70mph limit
B2087 East Sussex - Flimwell to Ticehurst: 41% of vehicles exceeded the posted limit
Warwickshire : Has the highest offence rate, one recorded offence for every 4.58 vehicles
Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
BlueJazz said:
When and Where Are Drivers Speeding Most?
Government data indicates that speeding is most common during night?time hours, between 6pm and 5am, when roads are quieter and speeds tend to rise.
... and it's more likely that signs will be missed in the dark. And drivers need to concentrate more on observation than limit observance. With quieter roads comes a lower perceived risk.Government data indicates that speeding is most common during night?time hours, between 6pm and 5am, when roads are quieter and speeds tend to rise.
It may be that speeding is not more prevalent, but that avoiding detection is more difficult and prosecution is easier (e.g. cameras work 24/7).
BlueJazz said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/articles/cm25ggyn3mxo
And the top three roads for speeding are:
When and Where Are Drivers Speeding Most?
Government data indicates that speeding is most common during night?time hours, between 6pm and 5am, when roads are quieter and speeds tend to rise.
Vehicle?tracking firm Quartix identified several hotspots earlier this year:
M77 Scotland: 52% of traffic exceeded the 70mph limit
B2087 East Sussex - Flimwell to Ticehurst: 41% of vehicles exceeded the posted limit
Warwickshire : Has the highest offence rate, one recorded offence for every 4.58 vehicles
Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
The big surprise there is that it’s the 70mph section, not the section with lower speed limits, which basically encompasses the whole road inside the Glasgow boundary. And the top three roads for speeding are:
When and Where Are Drivers Speeding Most?
Government data indicates that speeding is most common during night?time hours, between 6pm and 5am, when roads are quieter and speeds tend to rise.
Vehicle?tracking firm Quartix identified several hotspots earlier this year:
M77 Scotland: 52% of traffic exceeded the 70mph limit
B2087 East Sussex - Flimwell to Ticehurst: 41% of vehicles exceeded the posted limit
Warwickshire : Has the highest offence rate, one recorded offence for every 4.58 vehicles
Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
BlueJazz said:
Warwickshire : Has the highest offence rate, one recorded offence for every 4.58 vehicles
Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
IIRC Warwickshire changed almost _all_ their NSL's to 50's (as well as downgrading a number of other limits) some (many!) years back. So maybe this is the consequence. Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
I know I've lost respect for speed limits being set appropriately, that doesn't mean I don't follow them but I zero faith that there is a good reason behind them.
Fastdruid said:
BlueJazz said:
Warwickshire : Has the highest offence rate, one recorded offence for every 4.58 vehicles
Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
IIRC Warwickshire changed almost _all_ their NSL's to 50's (as well as downgrading a number of other limits) some (many!) years back. So maybe this is the consequence. Doesn't say why drivers may break the speed limit, perhaps that's an answer to a question that isn't wanted?
I know I've lost respect for speed limits being set appropriately, that doesn't mean I don't follow them but I zero faith that there is a good reason behind them.
Terminator X said:
All limits seem 10mph too slow to me other than say 20 past a school which is fine. All praise to Waze.
TX.
I live in a residential street where the speed limit is 30mph and that clearly isnt a safe or reasonable speed for people to drive. It's narrow and there are parked cars on both sides. 2 parked cars have been written off in the last 18 months. We are nowhere near a school. TX.
Randy Winkman said:
Terminator X said:
All limits seem 10mph too slow to me other than say 20 past a school which is fine. All praise to Waze.
TX.
I live in a residential street where the speed limit is 30mph and that clearly isnt a safe or reasonable speed for people to drive. It's narrow and there are parked cars on both sides. 2 parked cars have been written off in the last 18 months. We are nowhere near a school. TX.
TX.
alangla said:
The big surprise there is that it s the 70mph section, not the section with lower speed limits, which basically encompasses the whole road inside the Glasgow boundary.
The 70 section has average speed cams, the section inside Glasgow doesn't. Almost nobody sticks to the 50 limit.Can't remember the last time I saw a camera van on the Glasgow part of the A77.
In fact aside from the fixed cameras speed enforcement is noticeably light around Glasgow. I drive throughout greater Glasgow and Inverclyde for my job and camera vans or police speed traps are like hens teeth.
Perhaps a consequence of the cutting of traffic police numbers?
Edit, actually reading the article... " Vehicle‑tracking firm Quartix identified several hotspots earlier this year:
M77 Scotland: 52% of traffic exceeded the 70mph limit"
So not speed cams - tracking. I would suggest most of that 52% is people fractionally over at 71 or 72. Any time I have driven the A77 south of Glasgow everyone sits around a true 70mph. There is only a tiny fraction more than a few mph over the limit. So technically speeding but not with any link to speeding fines as the headine suggests.
Edited by irc on Wednesday 22 April 00:37
Unsurprising about the Flimwell to Ticehurst road: many drivers come off the A268 which is an arrow straight bit of road where 3 figure speeds would be easily achievable then onto this B road with a seemingly endless 30 limit.
As others have mentioned, it's about having appropriate speed limits that aren't set ridiculously low by the likes of Brake & their supporters.
As others have mentioned, it's about having appropriate speed limits that aren't set ridiculously low by the likes of Brake & their supporters.
Terminator X said:
Randy Winkman said:
Terminator X said:
All limits seem 10mph too slow to me other than say 20 past a school which is fine. All praise to Waze.
TX.
I live in a residential street where the speed limit is 30mph and that clearly isnt a safe or reasonable speed for people to drive. It's narrow and there are parked cars on both sides. 2 parked cars have been written off in the last 18 months. We are nowhere near a school. TX.
TX.
'Rise in Speeding Fines Linked to More Drivers Breaking the Limit, Data Suggests'
What a stupid title! That's like saying 'Sun coming up in the morning associated with daytime'.
It's very simple. The lower the limits get, the more people will break them. Extrapolate - make all roads 10mph. Everybody will be law-breaking speeders. It really is so silly.
What a stupid title! That's like saying 'Sun coming up in the morning associated with daytime'.
It's very simple. The lower the limits get, the more people will break them. Extrapolate - make all roads 10mph. Everybody will be law-breaking speeders. It really is so silly.
Drawweight said:
Yet they have covered up a lot of the cameras in Scotland supposedly because driving standards had improved 
I don't understand covering up speed cameras that aren't in use. The mere sight of them is a deterrent, surely, so putting a bright orange cover over it isn't going to make you lift off.Simpo Two said:
'Rise in Speeding Fines Linked to More Drivers Breaking the Limit, Data Suggests'
What a stupid title! That's like saying 'Sun coming up in the morning associated with daytime'.
It's very simple. The lower the limits get, the more people will break them. Extrapolate - make all roads 10mph. Everybody will be law-breaking speeders. It really is so silly.
What a stupid title! That's like saying 'Sun coming up in the morning associated with daytime'.
It's very simple. The lower the limits get, the more people will break them. Extrapolate - make all roads 10mph. Everybody will be law-breaking speeders. It really is so silly.
I thought exactly the same when I read it. Thought it was maybe left over from April 1st.Imagine being paid to carry out that study!
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