Ealing Council pedestrian zones
Discussion
For anyone unfortunate enough to have to drive within the London borough of Ealing, may I please bring to your attention a new to me cash making exercise.
It seems that between certain hours, certain roads with schools on are pedestrian!
Not the usual, obvious pedestrian zone, no barriers, change of road surface etc.
Instead they mount a sign, 15 feet in the air (not where you tend to be looking when navigating the associated hazards around schools) hidden among the numerous other 'road furniture'!
They refuse to accept that their signage in inadequate and difficult to see when driving and continue to issue fines. I have now fallen foul of these twice in different places.
Beware people and good luck.
It seems that between certain hours, certain roads with schools on are pedestrian!
Not the usual, obvious pedestrian zone, no barriers, change of road surface etc.
Instead they mount a sign, 15 feet in the air (not where you tend to be looking when navigating the associated hazards around schools) hidden among the numerous other 'road furniture'!
They refuse to accept that their signage in inadequate and difficult to see when driving and continue to issue fines. I have now fallen foul of these twice in different places.
Beware people and good luck.
They are called school streets in southwark, waze knows when you can use them, they are the new hotness for london councils, expect them to appear everywhere they can put them
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-t...
same in Ealing
https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201146/neighbourhoo...
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-t...
same in Ealing
https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201146/neighbourhoo...
Skodillac said:
Yellow Lizud said:
They've got some round Reading as well.
Really? Somewhat embarrassingly I live in Reading and haven't noticed any. So, considering that, I don't think they're going to be much of a problem for me in Ealing, either.
I know there are other places as well but can't remember where now!
Skodillac said:
Really? Somewhat embarrassingly I live in Reading and haven't noticed any.
So, considering that, I don't think they're going to be much of a problem for me in Ealing, either.
I don't know where any of these schools are, but here's what Reading council's web site says:-So, considering that, I don't think they're going to be much of a problem for me in Ealing, either.
Reading School Streets Programme
Reading now has 6 school street in operation across the borough covering 10 schools. These include 8 primary schools and 2 secondary schools.
Park Lane Primary School Street
Thameside Primary School Street
Wilson Primary School Street
Crescent Road School Street
Skodillac said:
Can you post an example from Google Streetview please?
Interested as I'm planning to move to Ealing from out of town and will be driving in to view properties.
Interested as I'm planning to move to Ealing from out of town and will be driving in to view properties.
Possibly less of an issue if you are in a modern SUV type of box, in something that sits low, those signs are not at eye level.
More annoying is that they have appeared in places that I haven't been for a while but spent many years driving around with no problems.
My wife was a stand-in coach for an after school club at Coldfall Primary School. The address is Coldfall Avenue, Muswell Hill, London, N10 1HS.
She drove and parked on Coldfall Avenue, ran the after school club, and 2 weeks later a nice fine dropped through the post. The school didn't want to know, said she should have parked on Everington Rd where they have another entrance. Nothing on their website about this. Council rejected our appeal that she was working at the school and parked at their address - with a confirming letter from the organiser.
She drove and parked on Coldfall Avenue, ran the after school club, and 2 weeks later a nice fine dropped through the post. The school didn't want to know, said she should have parked on Everington Rd where they have another entrance. Nothing on their website about this. Council rejected our appeal that she was working at the school and parked at their address - with a confirming letter from the organiser.
Foss62 said:
If it was anything like round here, most of the general traffic problems disappear when the school holidays start. Anything that persuades parents to let their kids make their own way to school must be a good idea. It would do wonders for the obesity crisis as well.
That's partially because fewer people are travelling to work during the school holidays aswell.
Just got caught in one of these in Ealing, Greenford to be exact, a road I have used 100s of times in the past 30 years, £80, and that's the reduced rate.
I need to go back and check the signage as it's not showing on Streetview (too recent). I didn't see any signs, they are high up and not visible when approaching and turning left into the zone. The pictures they have sent me are poor black and white.
I intend to challenge due to inadequate signage, I don't expect to have any success
I need to go back and check the signage as it's not showing on Streetview (too recent). I didn't see any signs, they are high up and not visible when approaching and turning left into the zone. The pictures they have sent me are poor black and white.
I intend to challenge due to inadequate signage, I don't expect to have any success
Edited by megaphone on Thursday 23 April 05:52
I got caught recently in Medway. Never been the the area before and was driving through. After the ticket arrived I checked and there was a standard B&W sign and I probably missed it because a lamp post obscures it until you are 10m from it, bus behind me up my chuff and sunshine in my eyes. £70 reduced to £35 for early payment.
A few people had successfully appealed it, a few have lost, and the Council have stood their ground on the sign being clear. I paid £35, but will recoup the money in other ways - They can FRO and when I bill the Council for work in the future and I will add on a premium to cover the fine 10+ times over.
A few people had successfully appealed it, a few have lost, and the Council have stood their ground on the sign being clear. I paid £35, but will recoup the money in other ways - They can FRO and when I bill the Council for work in the future and I will add on a premium to cover the fine 10+ times over.
LanceRS said:
Skodillac said:
Can you post an example from Google Streetview please?
Interested as I'm planning to move to Ealing from out of town and will be driving in to view properties.
Possibly less of an issue if you are in a modern SUV type of box, in something that sits low, those signs are not at eye level. Interested as I'm planning to move to Ealing from out of town and will be driving in to view properties.
More annoying is that they have appeared in places that I haven't been for a while but spent many years driving around with no problems.
megaphone said:
Just got caught in one of these in Ealing, Greenford to be exact, a road I have used 100s of times in the past 30 years, £80, and that's the reduced rate.
I need to go back and check the signage as it's not showing on Streetview (too recent). I didn't see any signs, they are high up and not visible when approaching and turning left into the zone. The pictures they have sent me are poor black and white.
I intend to challenge due to inadequate signage, I don't expect to have any success
Greenford/Perivale native here from many years ago though. Whilst nobody I know lives there now, there's always the possibility I might drive through for nostalgia reasons. Where are these areas? My home territory was the Medway estate and school in Greenford. TIAI need to go back and check the signage as it's not showing on Streetview (too recent). I didn't see any signs, they are high up and not visible when approaching and turning left into the zone. The pictures they have sent me are poor black and white.
I intend to challenge due to inadequate signage, I don't expect to have any success
Edited by megaphone on Thursday 23 April 05:52
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