Very lucky... or what?
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An EVRI driver:
Parked his van within the yellow zig-zags on a pedestrian crossing.
Left it running.
Not properly insured.
No MOT.
Failed roadside breathalyser.
But... under the limit at the Police Station.
(But copped it on all the other offences).
Parked his van within the yellow zig-zags on a pedestrian crossing.
Left it running.
Not properly insured.
No MOT.
Failed roadside breathalyser.
But... under the limit at the Police Station.
(But copped it on all the other offences).
Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th April 22:46
Terminator X said:
I suspect a high %age of delivery drivers probably don't have business miles insurance.
TX.
Reminds me of those Police programmes.TX.
Guy was delivering a Chinese meal, he was banned so GF was driving... sensible chap.
But again, not properly insured.
He begged with the Police if he could deliver the meal... as it was getting cold.
(Ob, the Police wasn't very sympathetic).
Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th April 19:06
Terminator X said:
I suspect a high %age of delivery drivers probably don't have business miles insurance.
TX.
At some point I read the Evri covered this, those poor sods are paid peanuts. TX.
Was earning more with an Astramax on the London courier circuit 40 years ago.
My son looked into it, it's modern slavery.
Doesitdrive said:
Terminator X said:
I suspect a high %age of delivery drivers probably don't have business miles insurance.
TX.
At some point I read the Evri covered this, those poor sods are paid peanuts. TX.
Was earning more with an Astramax on the London courier circuit 40 years ago.
My son looked into it, it's modern slavery.
Average £300 to £400 a week but I did pay for petrol. Van was mine to use in my own time.
I remember that I lived like a King back then. Had a car and usually 2 or 3 motorbikes left out in the street in London. Don't remember insurance being a problem and no one ever nicked them either
You'd be lucky to earn that now.
In fact the inflation calculator has that wage at £800 to £1000 now. Which funny enough is about what I was getting as a highly skilled camera operator with 35 years experience before I chucked it in last year
Sobering thought.
croyde said:
I found my dockets from when I drove a company transit for a living as a London courier back in 1987.
Average £300 to £400 a week but I did pay for petrol. Van was mine to use in my own time.
I remember that I lived like a King back then. Had a car and usually 2 or 3 motorbikes left out in the street in London. Don't remember insurance being a problem and no one ever nicked them either
You'd be lucky to earn that now.
In fact the inflation calculator has that wage at £800 to £1000 now. Which funny enough is about what I was getting as a highly skilled camera operator with 35 years experience before I chucked it in last year
Sobering thought.
you were only getting a grand a week as a camera operator? Average £300 to £400 a week but I did pay for petrol. Van was mine to use in my own time.
I remember that I lived like a King back then. Had a car and usually 2 or 3 motorbikes left out in the street in London. Don't remember insurance being a problem and no one ever nicked them either
You'd be lucky to earn that now.
In fact the inflation calculator has that wage at £800 to £1000 now. Which funny enough is about what I was getting as a highly skilled camera operator with 35 years experience before I chucked it in last year
Sobering thought.
Milkyway said:
An EVRI driver:
Parked his van within the yellow zig-zags on a pedestrian crossing.
Left it running.
Not properly insured.
No MOT.
Failed roadside breathalyser.
But... under the limit at the Police Station.
(But copped it on all the other offences).
White zig-zags. But glad people DO get done for that (especially EVRI, who are hopeless)Parked his van within the yellow zig-zags on a pedestrian crossing.
Left it running.
Not properly insured.
No MOT.
Failed roadside breathalyser.
But... under the limit at the Police Station.
(But copped it on all the other offences).
Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th April 22:46
and31 said:
croyde said:
I found my dockets from when I drove a company transit for a living as a London courier back in 1987.
Average £300 to £400 a week but I did pay for petrol. Van was mine to use in my own time.
I remember that I lived like a King back then. Had a car and usually 2 or 3 motorbikes left out in the street in London. Don't remember insurance being a problem and no one ever nicked them either
You'd be lucky to earn that now.
In fact the inflation calculator has that wage at £800 to £1000 now. Which funny enough is about what I was getting as a highly skilled camera operator with 35 years experience before I chucked it in last year
Sobering thought.
you were only getting a grand a week as a camera operator? Average £300 to £400 a week but I did pay for petrol. Van was mine to use in my own time.
I remember that I lived like a King back then. Had a car and usually 2 or 3 motorbikes left out in the street in London. Don't remember insurance being a problem and no one ever nicked them either
You'd be lucky to earn that now.
In fact the inflation calculator has that wage at £800 to £1000 now. Which funny enough is about what I was getting as a highly skilled camera operator with 35 years experience before I chucked it in last year
Sobering thought.
Hahaha. Yes 
I was far better paid as a freelancer but my last job was full time operating 5 robot cameras via a computer system and barely breaking a sweat.
No alarm had to be set in the morning and home for tea.
Unheard of in usual TV hours.
Again it's crazy, as the same job for ITN in the 80s would get you almost the same money.
It's a race to the bottom now with a bigger pool of younger people straight out of college happy to work long hours for less pay.
No proper unions anymore either. The 90s and early 00s for me were the best times in telly.
I was far better paid as a freelancer but my last job was full time operating 5 robot cameras via a computer system and barely breaking a sweat.
No alarm had to be set in the morning and home for tea.
Unheard of in usual TV hours.
Again it's crazy, as the same job for ITN in the 80s would get you almost the same money.
It's a race to the bottom now with a bigger pool of younger people straight out of college happy to work long hours for less pay.
No proper unions anymore either. The 90s and early 00s for me were the best times in telly.
croyde said:
Doesitdrive said:
Terminator X said:
I suspect a high %age of delivery drivers probably don't have business miles insurance.
TX.
At some point I read the Evri covered this, those poor sods are paid peanuts. TX.
Was earning more with an Astramax on the London courier circuit 40 years ago.
My son looked into it, it's modern slavery.
Average £300 to £400 a week but I did pay for petrol. Van was mine to use in my own time.
I remember that I lived like a King back then. Had a car and usually 2 or 3 motorbikes left out in the street in London. Don't remember insurance being a problem and no one ever nicked them either
You'd be lucky to earn that now.
In fact the inflation calculator has that wage at £800 to £1000 now. Which funny enough is about what I was getting as a highly skilled camera operator with 35 years experience before I chucked it in last year
Sobering thought.
I kept the ex Tarmac MK2 Transit I started with, for bigger van jobs, and used my newish MK3 Granada on executive car work when it came up.
Parking in London wasn't an issue, of course monetised now, everything is, any thriving business got bought out by the bigger companies, until they control everything including your earnings.
Different times, London was a playground where you could afford to live and find well paid work easily if you had a bit of nouse and get up and go.
After 64 years it is now time to leave. Not for retirement, for new challenges.
Totally agree. At 63 I'm having to leave London as I can't keep paying rent and can't afford £300k for a small flat.
My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Maybe I should head there.
In the early 80s I was doing well as a motorcycle courier. Some of my workmates were renting flats in the Charing Cross Rd and Shaftesbury Avenue area
My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Maybe I should head there.
In the early 80s I was doing well as a motorcycle courier. Some of my workmates were renting flats in the Charing Cross Rd and Shaftesbury Avenue area
croyde said:
Totally agree. At 63 I'm having to leave London as I can't keep paying rent and can't afford £300k for a small flat.
My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Maybe I should head there.
In the early 80s I was doing well as a motorcycle courier. Some of my workmates were renting flats in the Charing Cross Rd and Shaftesbury Avenue area
Being honest I have stayed too long, I have a house, bought and paid for, divorce is going to finish it, but I haven't been happy living in London for years, illness didn't help , but I think it is more fear of the unknown, you are used to what you are used to. My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Maybe I should head there.
In the early 80s I was doing well as a motorcycle courier. Some of my workmates were renting flats in the Charing Cross Rd and Shaftesbury Avenue area
The decline though is just too much now, the opportunities are gone, the streets are littered with , well litter, bollards and signs, restrictions you couldn't possibly head while concentrating on driving, so you get fined regularly.
The freedom of the 80,s is something London will never have again.
I was watching Traffic Cops.
A bloke knocked a young kid off his bike... no serious injuries, apart from a bump on the head & a buckled wheel.
(Parents advised that he should have been wearing a helmet)
Driver stopped, spoke to a few witnesses, apologised & drove off.
Luckily, the witness could give the Police the reg number.
They went to the address, the car was in the drive but no answer.
The door was kicked in... breathlyser read 44.
But... on count back, it was deemed that at the time of the accident he was under the limit.
A bloke knocked a young kid off his bike... no serious injuries, apart from a bump on the head & a buckled wheel.
(Parents advised that he should have been wearing a helmet)
Driver stopped, spoke to a few witnesses, apologised & drove off.
Luckily, the witness could give the Police the reg number.
They went to the address, the car was in the drive but no answer.
The door was kicked in... breathlyser read 44.
But... on count back, it was deemed that at the time of the accident he was under the limit.
Edited by Milkyway on Saturday 25th April 11:28
DorsetSparky said:
croyde said:
My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Sounds lovely.My daughter would be suited by something like that.
mac96 said:
DorsetSparky said:
croyde said:
My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Sounds lovely.My daughter would be suited by something like that.
croyde said:
mac96 said:
DorsetSparky said:
croyde said:
My daughter is currently buying a nice 2 up 2 down in Liverpool for £100k.
Sounds lovely.My daughter would be suited by something like that.
The old jokes about scouse scallys are more appropriate about London these days lol.
Only it's much more serious, spate of attempted kid snatches recently, of course it won't be in the news, Kahn has got them well under control.
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