Wildfire evacuation order & drink driving
Wildfire evacuation order & drink driving
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DeuceDeuce

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564 posts

119 months

Tuesday
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Let’s say you’re on a villa holiday with your wife, switched off from the world, both drinking lots of rosé by the pool and a text comes through on both your phones telling you to evacuate immediately due to wildfires closing in.

I imagine any police in the immediate vicinity might turn a blind eye but what if you need to drive 1 hour + to get to safety or what if you were involved in an accident?

fttm

4,520 posts

162 months

Tuesday
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If evacuation is that time critical I somehow can't imagine anybody chilling by the pool drinking wine , you'd be choking on the smoke . Having seen first hand how the fires operate , unless you were trying to save the property (brave/foolish) you'd be long gone . Somehow I doubt the cops would turn a blind eye to DUI in those circumstances . no siree .

Pica-Pica

16,399 posts

111 months

Tuesday
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It is the same as when you know anything is imminent; 'a birth, someone in the household is prone to seizures, etc. You stay sober, simple as that.

Aretnap

1,954 posts

178 months

Wednesday
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There is a general defence known as duress of circumstances (or necessity). If you reasonably believe that committing a crime is the only way to prevent death or serious injury, to yourself or someone else, then provided your action is a reasonable response to that belief (ie you didn't create more danger than the risk you were trying to escape from) then you potentially have a defense to any charge, short of murder.

https://www.motoroffence.co.uk/the-defence-of-dure...

Has been used successfully by people who have driven while over the limit to escape from danger, or to get to hospital. Whether it applies in any particular set of circumstances though is for the court to decide.

fttm

4,520 posts

162 months

Wednesday
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Aretnap said:
There is a general defence known as duress of circumstances (or necessity). If you reasonably believe that committing a crime is the only way to prevent death or serious injury, to yourself or someone else, then provided your action is a reasonable response to that belief (ie you didn't create more danger than the risk you were trying to escape from) then you potentially have a defense to any charge, short of murder.

https://www.motoroffence.co.uk/the-defence-of-dure...

Has been used successfully by people who have driven while over the limit to escape from danger, or to get to hospital. Whether it applies in any particular set of circumstances though is for the court to decide.
Don't get that may evacuation orders in the UK for wildfires though . No doubt someone will find some obscure stat

Aretnap

1,954 posts

178 months

Wednesday
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fttm said:
Don't get that may evacuation orders in the UK for wildfires though . No doubt someone will find some obscure stat
Well that's true, it's a very hypothetical question as far as the UK goes. As far as the laws of other countries go, it would depend on the country, which of course the OP didn't specify.

48k

17,130 posts

175 months

Wednesday
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DeuceDeuce said:
Let s say you re on a villa holiday with your wife, switched off from the world, both drinking lots of rosé by the pool and a text comes through on both your phones telling you to evacuate immediately due to wildfires closing in.

I imagine any police in the immediate vicinity might turn a blind eye but what if you need to drive 1 hour + to get to safety or what if you were involved in an accident?
Go on your villa holiday to a country that doesn't have a drink drive limit.beer