Applepay could cost you your licence
Applepay could cost you your licence
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telecat

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8,528 posts

272 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Seems that more Stringent rules now mean that if you pay for a Take away at a drive though window you could get 6 points on your licence for using a Mobile phone while "driving". Idiocy of this? Grab the Card reader and swipe it at your phone in the holder and it's not an offence. Much as I do not want idiots texting on the things or updating their status on the move it seems that sensible use of a device is out of the window in order to criminalise society.

Mammasaid

5,644 posts

128 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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telecat said:
Seems that more Stringent rules now mean that if you pay for a Take away at a drive though window you could get 6 points on your licence for using a Mobile phone while "driving". Idiocy of this? Grab the Card reader and swipe it at your phone in the holder and it's not an offence. Much as I do not want idiots texting on the things or updating their status on the move it seems that sensible use of a device is out of the window in order to criminalise society.
Show me an actual verified court case where this has happened and I'll believe you.

Otherwise, clickbait.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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In a drive through, so not on the highway?

Sounds like bks to me

TwigtheWonderkid

49,234 posts

181 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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keirik said:
In a drive through, so not on the highway?

Sounds like bks to me
Public access so RTA still applies. Has it ever been prosecuted though?

otolith

69,655 posts

235 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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That sounds like prosecuting people for spitting in the dentist's surgery.

Custard required.

giantdefy

700 posts

144 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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If you are worried. pull up at the window, apply handbrake, switch off engine, remove keys, pay, start engine, release handbrake, leave. All perfectly legal then

hyperblue

2,914 posts

211 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Sounds like typical social media copy/paste bullst without any source.

ashleyman

7,284 posts

130 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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I've heard this before.

Lots of mentions on the usual Express, DM etc...

http://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-using-apple-pay-at...

Finlandia

7,818 posts

262 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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giantdefy said:
If you are worried. pull up at the window, apply handbrake, switch off engine, remove keys, pay, start engine, release handbrake, leave. All perfectly legal then
How about a modern keyless car with start stop system and electronic handbrake? scratchchin

agtlaw

7,431 posts

237 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Public access so RTA still applies. Has it ever been prosecuted though?
Wrong. Using a mobile phone whilst driving can only be committed on "a road."

Black_S3

2,847 posts

219 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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giantdefy said:
If you are worried. pull up at the window, apply handbrake, switch off engine, remove keys, pay, start engine, release handbrake, leave. All perfectly legal then
You don’t have to go as far as engine off. Out of gear with handbrake on stopped in a safe place is fine. That’s a bit different to the type who rides the clutch as they reach into their bag for their phone.

Black_S3

2,847 posts

219 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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agtlaw said:
Wrong. Using a mobile phone whilst driving can only be committed on "a road."
Does a drive through not technically class as ‘a road’ (all be it a private one with public access’?

jakeylewb22

11 posts

91 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Mums friend got 6 points for using her phone in a maccies drive through....

Mammasaid

5,644 posts

128 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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jakeylewb22 said:
Mums friend got 6 points for using her phone in a maccies drive through....
Custard...

agtlaw

7,431 posts

237 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Black_S3 said:
Does a drive through not technically class as ‘a road’ (all be it a private one with public access’?
The legislation is very specific; a mobile phone offence can only be committed "on a road."

Many road traffic offences can be committed "on a road or other public place" but this is not one of those offences.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

112 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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But aren't most (if not all) drive through's on private land? So it doesn't apply?

Black_S3

2,847 posts

219 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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agtlaw said:
The legislation is very specific; a mobile phone offence can only be committed "on a road."

Many road traffic offences can be committed "on a road or other public place" but this is not one of those offences.
Wonder what the thinking behind that is & how they define on a road? Is it the same for all construction and use stuff?

DanL

6,590 posts

296 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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You use the Jimmy Carr defence, I would have thought. Isn’t the charge something like using a mobile phone as a communications device, which is how Jimmy beat the charge? Apologies if my memory has misled me! Assuming I’m right, it doesn’t matter whether a drive through is a road or not - you’re not using the phone to communicate, but rather to pay, and so you shouldn’t be charged...

Edited to add: https://www.nickfreemansolicitors.co.uk/comedian-c...

Looks like my memory didn’t fail me after all!

geeks

11,868 posts

170 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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Mammasaid said:
jakeylewb22 said:
Mums friend got 6 points for using her phone in a maccies drive through....
Custard...
BULLst!

Leonard Stanley

4,271 posts

135 months

Friday 10th May 2019
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jakeylewb22 said:
Mums friend got 6 points for using her phone in a maccies drive through....
[obvious]Pics of mum's friend in all her glory, please[/obvious]