Insuring another car
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oceanview

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1,631 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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I currently own and insure a car that I have 5+ years no-claim bonus. I am thinking about buying another vehicle for the summer- either an MPV or small camper, so that I can carry my kayak/mountain bike and maybe bed down for the night.
I have gone on comparison sites to get an idea of cost to insure. It asks about your no-claims bonus and so I have stated what have but, would that apply to this second vehicle or would they start you off again from zero?

I am currently insured with Admiral.

Heartworm

1,938 posts

192 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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You need an insurer who will mirror your no claims, otherwise you start at 0

p4cks

7,544 posts

230 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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They'd start you off at zero as the NCD is on the other car. I was fortunate that my insurer (Esure) mirrored my NCD on both of my cars but when I inquired about my third car they said they'd changed their policy so that no one gets mirrored NCD any more frown

Might be worth giving Admiral a call?

Mercky

642 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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The insurance thieves insist that the NCD applies only to one car and not the driver, so you'll have to bend over I'm afraid.
And I'd steer well clear of Admiral. Try NFU.

Edited by Mercky on Sunday 12th May 17:27

SGirl

7,924 posts

292 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Admiral will mirror NCDs, but for the first year you can’t protect the second NCD. Unless they’ve changed things since I bought my second car.

egor110

17,690 posts

234 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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SGirl said:
Admiral will mirror NCDs, but for the first year you can’t protect it. Unless they’ve changed things since I bought my second car.
Couldn't he just do a admiral muti car policy then cancel the 2nd car after the summer ?

oceanview

Original Poster:

1,631 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Thanks for the speedy replies!

So with the on-line quotes I have so far, would they be starting me from zero then or assume i am selling the car and carrying across the no-claims bonus ? (i have said about my other car which it asks for, which i obviously wouldn't if id sold it!)

oceanview

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1,631 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Mercky said:
The insurance thieves insist that the NCD applies only to one car and not the driver, so you'll have to bend over I'm afraid.
And I'd steer well clear of Admiral. Try NFU.

Edited by Mercky on Sunday 12th May 17:27
I agree- having been insured with NFU years back but, a ban since then means i am shafted for a few more months until i cross the magic 5 year threshold, so i take Admiral to save £££.

Shiv_P

3,057 posts

136 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Admiral definitely mirror NCB - give them a ring see what they can do

oceanview

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1,631 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Shiv_P said:
Admiral definitely mirror NCB - give them a ring see what they can do
Ok great. Will give them a call tomorrow.

Thanks for your help.

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Directline will mirror NCB up to 5 years for a second car, well at least they have for me.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,233 posts

181 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Mercky said:
The insurance thieves insist that the NCD applies only to one car and not the driver, so you'll have to bend over I'm afraid.
But it works both ways. If you have more than one car and have built up bonus on all of them, crash one and you only lose the bonus on that one. Your other bonuses remain intact. When that happens, you're glad it it applies only to one car and not the driver.

Shiv_P

3,057 posts

136 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Mercky said:
The insurance thieves insist that the NCD applies only to one car and not the driver, so you'll have to bend over I'm afraid.
But it works both ways. If you have more than one car and have built up bonus on all of them, crash one and you only lose the bonus on that one. Your other bonuses remain intact. When that happens, you're glad it it applies only to one car and not the driver.
This also theoretically works with mirroring. Set the NCB on your least driven car, then mirror to your main cars. If you crash the main car, the NCB is unaffected as it's actually applied to your least driven car which is sat at home safe and sound.

BertBert

21,340 posts

242 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Shiv_P said:
This also theoretically works with mirroring. Set the NCB on your least driven car, then mirror to your main cars. If you crash the main car, the NCB is unaffected as it's actually applied to your least driven car which is sat at home safe and sound.
I don't think mirroring works the way I think you think it does. It's not a live thing, just a one off. Sets your new bonus to be the same as the old, then they are idependent.
Bert

Shiv_P

3,057 posts

136 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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BertBert said:
I don't think mirroring works the way I think you think it does. It's not a live thing, just a one off. Sets your new bonus to be the same as the old, then they are idependent.
Bert
Hm are you sure? When I got mirrored at Admiral, car 1 had 2 years NCB, car 2 mirrored but showed 0 years NCB. When year 4 renewal came through car 2 was still 0 and car 1 was 3 years

Old Merc

3,820 posts

198 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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My broker tells me that claims tend to follow the driver.So surely its the driver who earns the no claims not the car.
My wife and I have been insured with a Motor Traders Policy for the last 30 years. I`ve just retired so I had to start from scratch insuring our two daily drivers. My wife had a claim last year and I`m claim free for over five years. We went with LV multi car, they accepted her as having 1 year NCB and me Full NCB.
I`ve also got my classic on a separate classic car policy earning full no claims.

BertBert

21,340 posts

242 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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Shiv_P said:
BertBert said:
I don't think mirroring works the way I think you think it does. It's not a live thing, just a one off. Sets your new bonus to be the same as the old, then they are idependent.
Bert
Hm are you sure? When I got mirrored at Admiral, car 1 had 2 years NCB, car 2 mirrored but showed 0 years NCB. When year 4 renewal came through car 2 was still 0 and car 1 was 3 years
No, not 100% sure and of course insurance companies do whatever they like with no claims. I think the normal use of the mirror is just to apply it to a second vehicle and then you have two independent ncbs. Presumably showing 0 stops you just running off and using that NCB with another insurer.
Bert

caziques

2,849 posts

199 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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Many years ago I tried to insure multiple cars.

The brokers told me that each insurance would start at 0 no claims, but that a claim would reflect on all policies.

Hence a claim on a motorbike policy would affect all car ones as well.

Fortunately at the time, the brokers were across the road from where I worked - and I ended up endlessly swapping one car policy between a variety of vehicles - in those there was no charge for this (or at least I don't recall one).

Insurance isn't compulsory in New Zealand, so I rarely bother with it these days - so much simpler.

ozzuk

1,463 posts

158 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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caziques said:
Many years ago I tried to insure multiple cars.

The brokers told me that each insurance would start at 0 no claims, but that a claim would reflect on all policies.

Hence a claim on a motorbike policy would affect all car ones as well.

Fortunately at the time, the brokers were across the road from where I worked - and I ended up endlessly swapping one car policy between a variety of vehicles - in those there was no charge for this (or at least I don't recall one).

Insurance isn't compulsory in New Zealand, so I rarely bother with it these days - so much simpler.
A claim has to be declared against all policies obviously as that is one of the insurance questions (any claims last 5 years) - which is a shame as a recent bike theft has impacted all my cars, and my partners policies (named driver), I think the point was it doesn't impact your NCB on other policies.

Mr Tidy

31,842 posts

158 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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I'd never had 2 cars until 2014.

Went into my local office of A-Plan and they sorted me a policy that would mirror the NCD on my 1st car (Allianz I think).

It could be done - hopefully it still can! thumbup