Survey Before They Reduce London To 20 MPH
Survey Before They Reduce London To 20 MPH
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bad company

Original Poster:

21,920 posts

297 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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They probably won’t take any notice but I thought it was worth having my say here:-

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/streets/20/

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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The square mile is looking at a 15mph limit.

https://www.ft.com/content/100c43ae-7e15-11e9-81d2...

Graveworm

9,271 posts

102 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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It does smack of lip service - the "Consultation" just captures what impact respondents think the limits will have on road use. It trolls out the accurate but irrelevant the slower you go the safer you are to imply that this will save lives. It of course gives no data from all the 20mph limits elsewhere completely avoiding that 20mph limits don't reduce casualties.

akirk

5,778 posts

145 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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are they planning on sorting out traffic so that you can actually do 20mph?!

BigMacDaddy

967 posts

212 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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It's the usual carefully-worded survey which allows them to interpret almost all answers as support for whatever crap scheme they want to implement.

LarsG

991 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Might as well get a horse.

LarsG

991 posts

106 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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The consultation will be meaningless. However forecast results of a 20mph limit are:

1. Stabbing deaths and injuries will exceed road casualties.
2. Unlikely that the present Mayor will get re-elected.

I can only say to those of you who live in London, you elected the man who is doing this.

4rephill

5,171 posts

209 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Surely you mean: "Before they raise London to 20mph"

wink

bad company

Original Poster:

21,920 posts

297 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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LarsG said:
The consultation will be meaningless. However forecast results of a 20mph limit are:

1. Stabbing deaths and injuries will exceed road casualties.
2. Unlikely that the present Mayor will get re-elected.

I can only say to those of you who live in London, you elected the man who is doing this.
I wish I agreed that the Mayor won’t get re-elected. Incredibly a lot of Londoners like him.

CoolHands

23,675 posts

226 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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I believe by participating in surveys like that you are giving them credence, so non-participation is the only solution. It’s pure bullst.

Dammit

3,816 posts

239 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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I think Trump attacking Khan has probably guaranteed Khan a second term.

The 20 mph limits are sadly irrelevant as there is absolutely zero enforcement - hence I suspect why no change has been observed from when the same roads had a 30 limit.

And as has been observed in this thread, all it would do (if enforced) would be to limit peak speeds, given that the average motorised vehicle speed in London is 7 mph (at rush hour).

mygoldfishbowl

4,300 posts

174 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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LarsG said:
Might as well get a horse.
Can you ride a horse?

megaphone

11,717 posts

282 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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Just completed the survey, they're more interested in my gender, religion, ethnicity etc than my opinions of their pointless scheme. Waste of time, it will just happen, same as the ULEZ survey I took part in, they took no notice and went ahead.

Integroo

11,631 posts

116 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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I'm in favour of the introduction of 20mph limits.

getmecoat

echazfraz

772 posts

178 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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"They" indeed.

untakenname

5,371 posts

223 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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I've filled it out, not sure why they need to know my religion or sexual orientation.

Probably not the response they want


Edited by untakenname on Monday 17th June 09:56

Graveworm

9,271 posts

102 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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untakenname said:
I've filled it out, not sure why they need to know my religion or sexual orientation.
But no interest in whether I support the scheme.

BaronVonVaderham

2,322 posts

178 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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I ticked all the minority options for gender etc, pretty sure this will upweight the value of my responses by x1000 hehe

WJNB

2,637 posts

192 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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BaronVonVaderham said:
I ticked all the minority options for gender etc, pretty sure this will upweight the value of my responses by x1000 hehe
... hope you included the now fashionable ailment relating to mental health. Why you'll soon be able to get a disability badge once you've proved you're stressed & that life is just too difficult.

oyster

13,793 posts

279 months

Monday 17th June 2019
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WJNB said:
BaronVonVaderham said:
I ticked all the minority options for gender etc, pretty sure this will upweight the value of my responses by x1000 hehe
... hope you included the now fashionable ailment relating to mental health. Why you'll soon be able to get a disability badge once you've proved you're stressed & that life is just too difficult.
Grow up.