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underwhelmist

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2,052 posts

164 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Good evening folks, hope you're having a splendid one. I was, until my neighbour brought round some post that had been delivered to his house by mistake, including a NIP.

I got photographed doing 60 in a 40 zone, it's the first time I've ever been done for speeding. What sort of penalty do you think I might be in for?

To pre-empt the arguments: yes I was caught fair and square, no I'm not going to try to weasel out of it, it was a two-lane dual carriageway with a third deceleration lane for a left turn, I was overtaking a slow vehicle in lane 1, no kittens were harmed.


SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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3 points & £100.

underwhelmist

Original Poster:

2,052 posts

164 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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SS2. said:
3 points & £100.
Thanks, that's reassuring, I hope you're right.

BlueMeganeII

338 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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SS2. said:
3 points & £100.
Are you sure? I’m sure one of my colleagues had a court appearance for very similar?

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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BlueMeganeII said:
SS2. said:
3 points & £100.
Are you sure? I’m sure one of my colleagues had a court appearance for very similar?
As sure as I can be - too fast for a course, not fast enough to be proceeded straight to court.

agtlaw

7,415 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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SS2 is, of course, absolutely right.

kestral

2,251 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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underwhelmist said:
Good evening folks, hope you're having a splendid one. I was, until my neighbour brought round some post that had been delivered to his house by mistake, including a NIP.

I got photographed doing 60 in a 40 zone, it's the first time I've ever been done for speeding. What sort of penalty do you think I might be in for?

To pre-empt the arguments: yes I was caught fair and square, no I'm not going to try to weasel out of it, it was a two-lane dual carriageway with a third deceleration lane for a left turn, I was overtaking a slow vehicle in lane 1, no kittens were harmed.
Was the letter sent by recorded delivery or by second/first class post?

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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kestral said:
Was the letter sent by recorded delivery or by second/first class post?
This could be good...

Are we lining up for Olympic standard pub lawyering here?

OP - 3 points / £100. You can pay online, but still have to send off the photo card for some bizarre reason. It's relatively painless!

underwhelmist

Original Poster:

2,052 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Landcrab_Six said:
kestral said:
Was the letter sent by recorded delivery or by second/first class post?
This could be good...

Are we lining up for Olympic standard pub lawyering here?

OP - 3 points / £100. You can pay online, but still have to send off the photo card for some bizarre reason. It's relatively painless!
I am intrigued by the question. No, it was sent by regular post, don't know if first or second class because I've thrown the envelope away. I don't know what difference recorded delivery would make. I haven't got a copy of the Magna Carta displayed in my window either.

However, I will concede this is a bit odd - the NIP and a bank letter addressed to my wife were delivered to next door. OK, that happens. When my neighbour brought them round he was at pains to point out they had already been opened and not by him. I couldn't see that they had been opened at first, but the right hand edge had been sliced off both envelopes. I believe there are automatic mail opening machines that open mail like that. I've no idea why they were opened. Good job I'm not paranoid.

STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!!

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Landcrab_Six said:
Are we lining up for Olympic standard pub lawyering here?
Good chance of it.

Petrus1983

11,209 posts

192 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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I hope SS2 is right - reading through my local newspaper 45mph in a 40mph seems to get hammered worse than that.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Petrus1983 said:
I hope SS2 is right - reading through my local newspaper 45mph in a 40mph seems to get hammered worse than that.
Not if you accept you “done the crime”.

BertBert

21,299 posts

241 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Petrus1983 said:
I hope SS2 is right - reading through my local newspaper 45mph in a 40mph seems to get hammered worse than that.
Do tell, what does your local paper say about 45 in a 40?

agtlaw

7,415 posts

236 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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BertBert said:
Do tell, what does your local paper say about 45 in a 40?
Possibly an idiot who didn’t comply with the conditional offer but instead went to court to argue a ludicrous speculative point about sending a “letter.”

kestral

2,251 posts

237 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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underwhelmist said:
I am intrigued by the question. No, it was sent by regular post, don't know if first or second class because I've thrown the envelope away. I don't know what difference recorded delivery would make. I haven't got a copy of the Magna Carta displayed in my window either.

However, I will concede this is a bit odd - the NIP and a bank letter addressed to my wife were delivered to next door. OK, that happens. When my neighbour brought them round he was at pains to point out they had already been opened and not by him. I couldn't see that they had been opened at first, but the right hand edge had been sliced off both envelopes. I believe there are automatic mail opening machines that open mail like that. I've no idea why they were opened. Good job I'm not paranoid.

STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!!
No problem. I will leave it at that then. bow

underwhelmist

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2,052 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Whoosh.

roadsmash

2,667 posts

100 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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underwhelmist said:
STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!!
For some reason this made me laugh more than it should have.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

192 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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And all because “bloke down the pub said” I reckon smile


anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Tony1963 said:
And all because “bloke down the pub said” I reckon smile

And absolutely nothing to do with the fact the system would implode if everybody took their day in court rather than rolling over and immediately paying the tax.


4rephill

5,171 posts

208 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Schmed said:
And absolutely nothing to do with the fact the system would implode if everybody took their day in court rather than rolling over and immediately paying the tax.
Is that like:

The "Driving without Insurance" tax?

The "Driving without a licence" tax?

The "Driving without a valid MOT" tax?

The "Driving with excess alcohol" tax?

The "Driving without tax" tax?

The "Failing to comply with a road traffic signal" tax?

The "Driving an un-roadworthy vehicle" tax?

Aren't they all actually monetary punishments for breaking the Law?, along with:

The "Theft" tax.

The "Public disorder" tax.

The "Drunk and disorderly" tax.

The "Criminal damage" tax.

The "Threatening behaviour" tax

Etc., etc., etc., etc. ?

confused