Top Restauranteur in Court after following advice
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Well not exactly, but I'm sure he took a course of action that many have advocated here at one time or another! 
http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/941466...
What would be the chances of that happening - assuming that nobody took steps to punish the selfish oaf first?
http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/941466...
Westmorland Gazette said:
Lake District restauranteur Simon Rogan fined in court today for criminal damage
AN award-winning South Lakeland restaurateur was ordered to pay more than £1,000 in compensation after a court heard he deliberately reversed his car into a Range Rover.
Michelin-star chef Simon Rogan, who runs the L’Enclume restaurant at Cartmel, had returned to Oxenholme Station following a business trip to London to find his Audi blocked in a parking bay, South Lakeland magistrates were told.
Lisa Hine, prosecuting, said the Range Rover was parked in such a way that other vehicles at the station were unable to reverse out of parking bays.
The court was told Rogan, 44, returned to his car after spending the day in London setting up his new restaurant and found he did not have enough space to get his vehicle out.
Ms Hine said Rogan reversed into the Range Rover causing it extensive damage.
Rogan, of Weavers Cottage, Cartmel, pleaded guilty to causing criminal damage. He was given a 12-month conditional discharge, ordered to pay compensation of £1,194, 83 to the owner of the Range Rover, Timothy Schools, plus £85 court costs.
In interview, Rogan said: “I was trying to nudge it out of the way, I was in a big rush.”
He told magistrates: “I made a mistake and I’m really sorry. But I thought that the car was illegally parked.
”I’m not in the habit of nudging cars out of the way. I didn’t really intend to do a lot of damage, I have a nice car myself.”
Rogan, a man of previous good character, said that he found staff at the train station most unhelpful and should have insisted on staff towing the Range Rover away instead of taking matters into his own hands.
I can understand why he took this course of action - and I think the Range Rover driver should have been fined for obstructing EACH of the vehicles he blocked in.AN award-winning South Lakeland restaurateur was ordered to pay more than £1,000 in compensation after a court heard he deliberately reversed his car into a Range Rover.
Michelin-star chef Simon Rogan, who runs the L’Enclume restaurant at Cartmel, had returned to Oxenholme Station following a business trip to London to find his Audi blocked in a parking bay, South Lakeland magistrates were told.
Lisa Hine, prosecuting, said the Range Rover was parked in such a way that other vehicles at the station were unable to reverse out of parking bays.
The court was told Rogan, 44, returned to his car after spending the day in London setting up his new restaurant and found he did not have enough space to get his vehicle out.
Ms Hine said Rogan reversed into the Range Rover causing it extensive damage.
Rogan, of Weavers Cottage, Cartmel, pleaded guilty to causing criminal damage. He was given a 12-month conditional discharge, ordered to pay compensation of £1,194, 83 to the owner of the Range Rover, Timothy Schools, plus £85 court costs.
In interview, Rogan said: “I was trying to nudge it out of the way, I was in a big rush.”
He told magistrates: “I made a mistake and I’m really sorry. But I thought that the car was illegally parked.
”I’m not in the habit of nudging cars out of the way. I didn’t really intend to do a lot of damage, I have a nice car myself.”
Rogan, a man of previous good character, said that he found staff at the train station most unhelpful and should have insisted on staff towing the Range Rover away instead of taking matters into his own hands.
What would be the chances of that happening - assuming that nobody took steps to punish the selfish oaf first?
10 Pence Short said:
The guy who blocked the spaces may have been inconsiderate- he may also have felt he had a valid reason to leave his car where he did.
The other guy sounds equally self- centred and I'm glad he was rightly prosecuted for his selfish stupidity.
I can't imagine what valid reason that would be - but it was right that he should be prosecuted for criminal damage.The other guy sounds equally self- centred and I'm glad he was rightly prosecuted for his selfish stupidity.
If he HAD consulted here first, I'm sure he would have been warned to "Get a mate to tow it into the road" and not get caught - especially since this would have damaged his own vehicle too!
Here is the long term parking at Oxenholme... the usual complaint is that it is too expensive, not over full!
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=oxenholme+station&am...
There could be any number of justifiable reasons, from being caught short, to running in to drop something off before a train departure, and so on, or just that he's an inconsiderate s
t.
In any case you should deal with the problem within the law and by being reasonable- not being a st yourself in kind, which I know we agree on.
t.In any case you should deal with the problem within the law and by being reasonable- not being a s
t yourself in kind, which I know we agree on. I wonder why he admitted it. Unless he made a fuss then got in his car and said, "Right, I'm going to ram it" in front of witnesses. He should have kept his mouth shut and then if he'd been tracked down, claim no knowledge of the incident and let his insurance deal if necessary. Normally that would be a stty thing to do but in this case I think he was in the right. Pricks like the RR driver need to be taught a lesson. That happened to me a while ago - went for new tyres and another tosser in a RR (or maybe the same one, it was 3 miles away from the OP!) parked outside completely blocking access to the entire garage - then went shopping! I waited 20 minutes then half a dozen powerfully built blokes bounced the thing out of the way and left it across the pavement, for which he later got a ticket I heard. Hopefully there were no scratches to his bodywork as a result, hope not, hope not...
tty thing to do but in this case I think he was in the right. Pricks like the RR driver need to be taught a lesson. That happened to me a while ago - went for new tyres and another tosser in a RR (or maybe the same one, it was 3 miles away from the OP!) parked outside completely blocking access to the entire garage - then went shopping! I waited 20 minutes then half a dozen powerfully built blokes bounced the thing out of the way and left it across the pavement, for which he later got a ticket I heard. Hopefully there were no scratches to his bodywork as a result, hope not, hope not...birdcage said:
I ate there last week and very nice it was too.
Nobody gets a slap on the wrist anymore do they, unless they aren't previously of good character.
I'm guessing he refused a police Caution if he ended up in court - sounds like he would have been eligible. Personally I'd initially have offered him (and the 'victim') the chance to 'locally resolve' it, eg. pay for the damage assuming the damage wasn't too bad (just over a grand to a Range Rover doesn't sound like much damage? No idea of their dealer prices but would guess it's high) but we'll never know if that was also offered/refused. Nobody gets a slap on the wrist anymore do they, unless they aren't previously of good character.
I agree with him.
If you ignore the rules and think "fk everyone else" then frankly fk you.
I have moved a car that parked directly behind me (this was in a "head to head" car park with lanes in the middle so took breath taking stupidity)
It was winter and on a hill, I used a shovel under his car to bounce it out the way.
It dented the sills and wheel arches - tough.
If I'd been in a banger I'd have felt no guilt at nudging it out the way.
If you're too dim / selfish to park a car correctly, you shouldn't drive one.
And yes if I did it to someone else I'd expect similar to happen to mine.
If you ignore the rules and think "f
k everyone else" then frankly fk you.I have moved a car that parked directly behind me (this was in a "head to head" car park with lanes in the middle so took breath taking stupidity)
It was winter and on a hill, I used a shovel under his car to bounce it out the way.
It dented the sills and wheel arches - tough.
If I'd been in a banger I'd have felt no guilt at nudging it out the way.
If you're too dim / selfish to park a car correctly, you shouldn't drive one.
And yes if I did it to someone else I'd expect similar to happen to mine.
10 Pence Short said:
And you find out that guy being selfish was in the process of having a heart attack whilst 'abandoning' their car, or their car broke down and they've just gone for help?
Seriously, the 'fk you' attitude of some parts of society really stinks.
Then you would find his car unlocked with the keys in it and him collapsed nearby.Seriously, the 'f
k you' attitude of some parts of society really stinks.Alternatively if he dies he won't care, if he lives he'll be so thankful he's alive, he won't care.
Broken down - hazards, bonnet open, note on the dash....
Or how about it's just some d
head which it is 99.9999999999% of the time.I help run a charity event and last year I was on car park duties there are always a few who feel they have the right to park where they damn well want - screw the fact it affects others, blocks the emergency route or was being saved for the disabled.
Edited by Bill on Tuesday 13th December 10:16
Really , this whole story is an excellent example of why you should REVERSE into parking spaces . A driver who had reversed in would have most likely been able to manoeuvre out ; unlike those who drive into spaces then need to get the full length of their car out before being able to turn .
The problem with the disabled they too can have a fk you attitude.
Example, outside work the road is wide enough for two cars no more.
One side of the road has marked parking bays, with a 1 hour restirction. Other side has a single yellow. The other day a bloke parked on the single yellow, opposite another parked car (not running to loo or anything else). He blocked the road. He was challeneged by a member of the public, and I heard him tell the guy he was entitled he had a disabled badge. The car was there for 40 minutes, during which no-one could go past.
Now I know disabled folks have concessions, but surely it is with the proviso they do not cause obstructions.
k you attitude.Example, outside work the road is wide enough for two cars no more.
One side of the road has marked parking bays, with a 1 hour restirction. Other side has a single yellow. The other day a bloke parked on the single yellow, opposite another parked car (not running to loo or anything else). He blocked the road. He was challeneged by a member of the public, and I heard him tell the guy he was entitled he had a disabled badge. The car was there for 40 minutes, during which no-one could go past.
Now I know disabled folks have concessions, but surely it is with the proviso they do not cause obstructions.
daz3210 said:
The problem with the disabled they too can have a fk you attitude.
Example, outside work the road is wide enough for two cars no more.
One side of the road has marked parking bays, with a 1 hour restirction. Other side has a single yellow. The other day a bloke parked on the single yellow, opposite another parked car (not running to loo or anything else). He blocked the road. He was challeneged by a member of the public, and I heard him tell the guy he was entitled he had a disabled badge. The car was there for 40 minutes, during which no-one could go past.
Now I know disabled folks have concessions, but surely it is with the proviso they do not cause obstructions.
He was awarded a disabled badge for having a disabled brain. Some of these disabled drivers have huge chips on their shoulders. (I know the majority don't though)k you attitude.Example, outside work the road is wide enough for two cars no more.
One side of the road has marked parking bays, with a 1 hour restirction. Other side has a single yellow. The other day a bloke parked on the single yellow, opposite another parked car (not running to loo or anything else). He blocked the road. He was challeneged by a member of the public, and I heard him tell the guy he was entitled he had a disabled badge. The car was there for 40 minutes, during which no-one could go past.
Now I know disabled folks have concessions, but surely it is with the proviso they do not cause obstructions.
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