Expired Photocard - Eek!
Expired Photocard - Eek!
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jshell

Original Poster:

12,116 posts

236 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Cripes!

Need to hire a car tonight and just spotted photocard expired 2 weeks ago!

Will they refuse, and will I get humped by DVLA?


clunkbox

237 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I, rather stupidly but I'm horribly disorganised, had an expired photocard for over two years. I finally got around to sorting it, but in the interim:

-Enterprise didn't notice sometimes, other times they flagged it but didn't care.
-One small company wouldn't let me rent when I told them it was expired.
-Another few smaller hire companies were OK with me just saying I had lost it, and I just gave them the paper part. One asked that I brought along my passport to go with the paper part.

Best bet I reckon would be to ring up and just say you lost the card, check if it is OK with them, at least that gives you a chance to ring around a few ones. Better than trying to blag it and being turned away at the desk.

I would get it sorted ASAP as it is up to a £1000 fine, luckily I never got pulled over in the interim. FWIW the DVLA didn't bat an eyelid when I sent off my renewal two years late.

jshell

Original Poster:

12,116 posts

236 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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clunkbox said:
I, rather stupidly but I'm horribly disorganised, had an expired photocard for over two years. I finally got around to sorting it, but in the interim:

-Enterprise didn't notice sometimes, other times they flagged it but didn't care.
-One small company wouldn't let me rent when I told them it was expired.
-Another few smaller hire companies were OK with me just saying I had lost it, and I just gave them the paper part. One asked that I brought along my passport to go with the paper part.

Best bet I reckon would be to ring up and just say you lost the card, check if it is OK with them, at least that gives you a chance to ring around a few ones. Better than trying to blag it and being turned away at the desk.

I would get it sorted ASAP as it is up to a £1000 fine, luckily I never got pulled over in the interim. FWIW the DVLA didn't bat an eyelid when I sent off my renewal two years late.
Cheers, appreciate the post! Makes me feel a bit better. I submitted my renewal application, but it said up to 3 weeks for return!

Vaud

60,003 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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1 / some hire companies will call the DVLA and verify you - this happened when I needed a courtesy car and it was expired.

2 / for future reference, the post office do a fast track service - mine came back in 3 days.

bradjsmith88

117 posts

159 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Can't tell you if the hire company will be OK. Legally:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...

As long as you have made an application for a replacement then you are still legal to drive (subject to the nitty gritty nothing has changed etc etc...)

MG0o

96 posts

156 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Either way get it sorted out ASAP, a post office with the photo machine will have it sorted very quickly for you, I know two people who didnt even know that it could expire and they both got fined - is your address correct/current with the dvla as well? my pals didnt know about the photo card renewal as they never got the letter to remind them as they forgot to update their address as well - which probably contributed to them getting fined[For both the photo card + failure to update their address].

(they both lived together and did their driving tests within a month of each other, 10 yrs later they had both moved to new homes etc and completely forgot about it all)

Eclassy

1,201 posts

153 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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jshell said:
Cheers, appreciate the post! Makes me feel a bit better. I submitted my renewal application, but it said up to 3 weeks for return!
You'll get it in five days max! They are pretty efficient

keegs111

164 posts

182 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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clunkbox said:
I, rather stupidly but I'm horribly disorganised, had an expired photocard for over two years. I finally got around to sorting it, but in the interim:

-Enterprise didn't notice sometimes, other times they flagged it but didn't care.
-One small company wouldn't let me rent when I told them it was expired.
-Another few smaller hire companies were OK with me just saying I had lost it, and I just gave them the paper part. One asked that I brought along my passport to go with the paper part.

Best bet I reckon would be to ring up and just say you lost the card, check if it is OK with them, at least that gives you a chance to ring around a few ones. Better than trying to blag it and being turned away at the desk.

I would get it sorted ASAP as it is up to a £1000 fine, luckily I never got pulled over in the interim. FWIW the DVLA didn't bat an eyelid when I sent off my renewal two years late.
Didn't bother renewing for 5+ years, was even flagged to DVLA after a pull by the police. Needed to rent a car in USA so finally renewed, no fine or even a crossed word....

matt0677

509 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I received a reminder in the post, complete with the form. I wonder why some people don't get reminders.

I was also impressed that since my passport was issued within the last x years (5, I think), I didn't need to send a new photo and was able to renew online.

My new documents arrived quite quickly by government standards, with the endorsement removed smile

TwigtheWonderkid

49,270 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Wow, 10 posts in and not one idiot has come on to say your insurance is invalidated. Things are looking up!

lbc

3,340 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Wow, 10 posts in and not one idiot has come on to say your insurance is invalidated. Things are looking up!
Now that you have now opened the challenge, somebody will take the bait. biggrin

Tunku

7,703 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I really must get round to getting a photo licence one of these days.

lbc

3,340 posts

248 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Tunku said:
I really must get round to getting a photo licence one of these days.
I got one this year as my 15 year old pink paper licence was falling apart and virtually unreadable.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

276 months

Friday 21st March 2014
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I was refused car rental for this very reason.

I called DVLA who confirmed I was still able to drive legally and in possession of a current UK licence but this didn't cut it with the car hire firm who were based in Weymouth. Their documents required a valid photo Licence and so that was that.

I had to get my mum to rent the car - well Mrs Henry-F smile

On the plus side very easy and efficient to get a replacement ordered at the local post office who took the picture, filled in all the forms and sent it off for a small charge.

Henry smile

Marvib

528 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd March 2014
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Just checked mine, expired 14 months ago.
Better get it sorted smile

wiliferus

4,225 posts

229 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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Eclassy said:
They are pretty efficient
Said no-one about the DVLA ever... hehe

jshell

Original Poster:

12,116 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th March 2014
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wiliferus said:
Eclassy said:
They are pretty efficient
Said no-one about the DVLA ever... hehe
Actually, 7 working days! Hertz still hired me a car on the expired card though...

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

182 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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clunkbox said:


I would get it sorted ASAP as it is up to a £1000 fine, luckily I never got pulled over in the interim. FWIW the DVLA didn't bat an eyelid when I sent off my renewal two years late.
To be fair they have no idea if you were driving or not in that time.

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Rostfritt said:
To be fair they have no idea if you were driving or not in that time.
Wouldn't matter anyway because the offence would be failing to surrender, not driving with an expired photocard.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

182 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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SS2. said:
Wouldn't matter anyway because the offence would be failing to surrender, not driving with an expired photocard.
Do you have to surrender an expired card?