Dealing with a problem tenant
Dealing with a problem tenant
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Eclassy

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1,201 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Hello chaps

A quick one. I have searched the forum and cant find anything relating to this. Even Google cant give me an answer with my specific query.

Section 4 (Nuisance parking offences)of the Clean Neighbourhoods and Enviromental Act 2005 deals with the issue of repairing cars on the Road but not on private grounds. How does one deal with a person who is using the car park of a block of flats as a car repair workshop? Person has over 8 cars parked in car park at any one time and I have video evidence of him repairing cars in the car park, oil spills everywhere, disposed car parts, registration of customers cars e.t.c. The wcensoredr has taken up the parking spaces of about 6 other residents and he threatens violence on anyone who questions his actions.

Can this person still be reported under section 4 of this act or is there another act/law he is breaking. He has been reported to the council already but council acting not interested maybe because the chap is not carrying out repairs on public road.

I also ran the plates of one of the cars in the car park and they are false plates. The car is a Toyota but Webuyanycar and Gov.uk have the car down as a Jaguar.

Any help appreciated.

Edited by Eclassy on Wednesday 2nd April 11:56

73mark

774 posts

158 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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False plates,police will be interested in that if nothing else.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Eclassy said:
he threatens violence on anyone who questions his actions.
Hopefully that alone would be sufficient for the local police to rein him in.

kowalski655

15,236 posts

174 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Can the car park be used to get from A to B?If so that could well make it a road for the Act
But the violence should bring the BiB out,and the mess should interest the counci

Eclassy

Original Poster:

1,201 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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kowalski655 said:
Can the car park be used to get from A to B?If so that could well make it a road for the Act
But the violence should bring the BiB out,and the mess should interest the counci
No the car park is not a thoroughfare. I have sent pictures to the council of the mess he has made all over the car park and his customers' vehicles illegally parked on the kerb.

I have already reported him to the police for threats he made against me. I will be supplying them with video evidence of this shortly and thats when I will tell them about the false plates as I only just found that out. He normally has that vehicle covered so it was just luck I saw it uncovered and was able to take a picture of it.

The problem though is the police case can take however long and I also have a court case against him scheduled for some months away. All the other residents are fed up and I am just trying to find a way to make him stop using the car park as a car repair workshop immediately.

He lives in one of the flats and has about 8 vehicles in the private car park when he is only entitled to one space. Is there any legitimate way to remove these cars? The parking company employed instructed its agents not to ticket his cars because they are scared of him. I cant blame them cause he is a violent individual and has physically assaulted their agents in the past.

I just can't understand how the law allows an individual such as this chap to get awy with 'murder'. The police have been called on him several times but they do absolutely nothing!




Edited by Eclassy on Wednesday 2nd April 13:43

dingg

4,566 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Night time - gallon of petrol

job done

he does it again

repeat the message

voyds9

8,490 posts

314 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Report to HMRC probably running a business tax free.

coldsnap

867 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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I would have thought the Council Planning Dept would be interested but certainly contact the Environment Agency re the pollution, if he's breaking cars they will also be interested.

Riley Blue

23,214 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Sounds a good story for the local press; shame the council into taking action.

BigBob

1,471 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Take him out and buy him a pint or three.

Get friendly and get his phone number.

Next time you get clamped - give him a ring ................... wink


BB

Eclassy

Original Poster:

1,201 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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BigBob said:
Take him out and buy him a pint or three.

Get friendly and get his phone number.

Next time you get clamped - give him a ring ................... wink


BB
Extremely useful...Many thanks

jesta1865

3,453 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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voyds9 said:
Report to HMRC probably running a business tax free.
this, the customs boys will be happy to go in mob handed, i know a few (ex wife is married to one) and they all tower over me and are not shy in getting up close and personal when they need to.

EW109

345 posts

171 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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You might try to persuade the environmental health department at the local authority to take an interest on the basis that what is being done amounts to a statutory nuisance under section 79(1)(a) ("any premises in such a state as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance") and/or section 79(1)(e) ("any accumulation or deposit which is prejudicial to health or a nuisance") of the Environmental Protection Act 1990.

kowalski655

15,236 posts

174 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Are the parking spaces allocated & owned by the individual flats?ie are they shown as "theirs" on a Land Registry plan?If so are there useful remedies for trespass? Problem again will be the violence,maybe ask BiB to attend as cars are dragged away to avoid a breach of the peace or whatever its called

Eclassy

Original Poster:

1,201 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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kowalski655 said:
Are the parking spaces allocated & owned by the individual flats?ie are they shown as "theirs" on a Land Registry plan?If so are there useful remedies for trespass? Problem again will be the violence,maybe ask BiB to attend as cars are dragged away to avoid a breach of the peace or whatever its called
It says that each flat is entitled to one parking space and the remaining car park spaces for visitors. Never had any problem until this violent wcensoredr thought it was a good idea to start his car repair business on private land.

When this became unbearable, the spaces were allocated, designated and marked out by a car park company but there is nothing official backing this n up.

If only I could hire some henchmen to go with me while I put notices on the cars that they will be moved in 14 days. He'll just rip them off anyway.... I am kind of losing the will to leave. Every morning, I pray to God to take his life. That seems to be the only likely solution. The chap is a law unto himself. I have just found out that he doesnt even have to obey the court's order if judgement is in my favour and if he doesnt it will take another 2 months before anything can be done and even then nothing is guaranteed. madconfusedfurious

Ian Geary

5,644 posts

223 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Eclassy said:
I am kind of losing the will to leave. Every morning, I pray to God to take his life. That seems to be the only likely solution.
I assume you mean "live" rather than leave?

This situation does seem to be causing you a lot of frustration and angst, and I wonder if just leaving (i.e. moving) might be the right solution? Life's too short etc. etc.

And of course, any new resident has the bonus of a convenient car repair facility right on their door step. wink

This might seem like he has "won", but so what? I believe in swings and roundabouts, and I'm sure at some point in his life he'll upset someone higher up the criminal food chain, and have no recourse to the legal system he's abusing at the moment.

Ian



johnfm

13,751 posts

281 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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1. Procure weapons and drugs.

2. Plant weapons and drugs in his covered up car in his space.

3. Anonymous tip off to cops - bloke stashing what looks to be a weapon in a car etc.

Problem solved.


Eclassy

Original Poster:

1,201 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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Ian Geary said:
I assume you mean "live" rather than leave?

This situation does seem to be causing you a lot of frustration and angst, and I wonder if just leaving (i.e. moving) might be the right solution? Life's too short etc. etc.

And of course, any new resident has the bonus of a convenient car repair facility right on their door step. wink

This might seem like he has "won", but so what? I believe in swings and roundabouts, and I'm sure at some point in his life he'll upset someone higher up the criminal food chain, and have no recourse to the legal system he's abusing at the moment.

Ian
Thanks for your input. I did mean to write live. I dont even live there. I really wish I could just up and leave.

I own the property and all the other residents have had enough of this menace to society. I should have taken firmer action earlier. Residents have to park on the street because of this chap, kids are scared to play outside when the weather is nice because they know he is violent and even when he is not there, it isnt safe for them due to the oil spills and hazardous auto waste he leaves on the premises.

I am just so disapponted that the law isnt on my side.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Wednesday 2nd April 2014
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1) -Pass address to HMRC. HMG comes down hard on those who don't pay tax,.
2) Advise DWP fraud line and local council fraud line.
Next, block of flats, is this a business premise with planning permission ,or are the flats Council owned and or sold off as private dwellings. If so as council premises ,he's running a business from home, forbidden under his tenancy and I'd bet if privately owned ,ex council place, banned in the sale agreement.

Next- who maintains the car park he's damaging. And last, might be worth involving local ( and if applicable as highway being misused/damaged , County councillor).

Edited by Who me ? on Wednesday 2nd April 21:21

johnfm

13,751 posts

281 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Eclassy said:
Ian Geary said:
I assume you mean "live" rather than leave?

This situation does seem to be causing you a lot of frustration and angst, and I wonder if just leaving (i.e. moving) might be the right solution? Life's too short etc. etc.

And of course, any new resident has the bonus of a convenient car repair facility right on their door step. wink

This might seem like he has "won", but so what? I believe in swings and roundabouts, and I'm sure at some point in his life he'll upset someone higher up the criminal food chain, and have no recourse to the legal system he's abusing at the moment.

Ian
Thanks for your input. I did mean to write live. I dont even live there. I really wish I could just up and leave.

I own the property and all the other residents have had enough of this menace to society. I should have taken firmer action earlier. Residents have to park on the street because of this chap, kids are scared to play outside when the weather is nice because they know he is violent and even when he is not there, it isnt safe for them due to the oil spills and hazardous auto waste he leaves on the premises.

I am just so disapponted that the law isnt on my side.
Hang on. YOU own the property? So is this guy your tenant? Or do you mean you own one of the other flats in the block?