Blocked work drive / threats
Blocked work drive / threats
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Original Poster:

5,512 posts

198 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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So we have a semi shared drive for work which is shared with a car wash.

In red I have highlighted our gate.

The black arrows point the direction the cars come out from under the forecourt for the final dry which takes 7-8 minutes.

Usually they have 3 lines sometimes 2 lines, and naturally you end up with cars parked being dried where the black arrows are on the left. This obviously blocks our gate. It's alot tighter than the picture leads you to believe.

So we get missed deliveries from people who cba to come in as our warehouse is at the back so they need to come through the car park. It also means when people go out for lunch, room has to be made, even worse is coming into the car park, you need to sit on the main road waiting for room to be made.

We told the owner not to let cars come that way, good for a day or two then back to normal. This has been going on for around a year.

So we decided to park the van on the right side of our gate so they couldn't come onto our side of the drive to dry their cars. This resulted in the workers threatening to cause us proper hassle including acid thrown on our cars. So we retreated and are waiting for the owner to come.

What would you guys do as I am now worried / limited to ideas on what to actually do! Owner should be here soon so that will be an interesting conversation.


shtu

4,604 posts

177 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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I feel a skip delivery coming on.

Ken Sington

3,964 posts

269 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Do you and the car wash lease your units? If so, check the leases, may contain guidance regarding rights of way, access etc and then get landlord involved.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

226 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Park the vans there, stet up a camera, see what happens.

If the vans are damaged then report it to the police and claim back the damage from the car wash.

That or speak to the Landlord as mentioned above. Might be worth speaking to the Landlord anyway and asking them to mark up the area in front of the gate with 'no parking' signage.


ETA - I notice they don't have a lawn. This will restrict the solutions you'll receive from the PH 'massive'.

t400ble

1,804 posts

152 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Stick a temporary fence up or, open a car wash in your unit, £1 cheaper than them


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Original Poster:

5,512 posts

198 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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We own ours, they lease theirs. Landlord is of no use.

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Original Poster:

5,512 posts

198 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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The Beaver King said:
Park the vans there, stet up a camera, see what happens.

If the vans are damaged then report it to the police and claim back the damage from the car wash.

That or speak to the Landlord as mentioned above. Might be worth speaking to the Landlord anyway and asking them to mark up the area in front of the gate with 'no parking' signage.


ETA - I notice they don't have a lawn. This will restrict the solutions you'll receive from the PH 'massive'.
I don't care about the van but in the car park throughout the day we have various cars parked there. During the night we have some cars also parked there of semi high value.

Dracoro

9,038 posts

276 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Can you put a fence on the boundary to the road?

If they've threatened to acid your cars, I would be reporting it rather than backing down.

AndyNetwork

1,849 posts

225 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Speak with the local planning department? I am sure there would be some sort of planning consent to them using the place for car washing, and access egress would have had to be discussed.

steveo3002

11,242 posts

205 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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skip or old van parked on the boundry , could have a van sign written with your company name

get any threats reported to the police

ILoveMondeo

9,617 posts

257 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Definitely a job for the landlord/management company. Assuming it's the same for both properties?

Get some bollards installed?

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

249 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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ILoveMondeo said:
Definitely a job for the landlord/management company. Assuming it's the same for both properties?

Get some bollards installed?
Bolards (if you can) were my first thought too (for a permanant solution) those nasty concrete filled steel things will do the job.

Though I would report the threats to the police (non emergency number) so that there is a crime/reference number on file just incase it escalates when a solution is decided upon.

barryrs

5,048 posts

254 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Might be worth a call to the local highways authority if they are causing an obstruction to a footpath or follow up with the local planning department to see if any permissions should have been sought for that type of business.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

209 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Report threats to police non-emergency number, instruct solicitor to write to lessee and landlord of neighbouring property threatening legal action for nuisance. If you own that patch of forecourt, put up bollards.

steveo3002

11,242 posts

205 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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what about some signs /arrows delivery this way etc nice big board set in a barrel of concrete heavy enough that they cant shift em

elanfan

5,527 posts

258 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Report to Police (if only to get your retaliation in first!) for obstruction. Add the threats into the mix.

For your information 'deliberate' obstruction is actually an arrestable offence.

Do they have all the appropriate interceptors in the ground to collect their detergent contaminated run off (doubtful in a leased premises). Does their run off leak on to the road causing a hazard. I think a visit from the local council's environmental officer might be in order.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Private road or public?

If they are "drying" their cars on the highway (back of verge to back of verge) they are obliged to make sure water run-off from their business doesn't infiltrate/contaminate storm drainage.

Also, businesses parking on a highway in such a way to block footways is frowned upon.
Either way, a phone call to the council could cause them some hassle.

Otherwise bollards. Big fk-off yellow and black ones, they can be hit again and again. Something like this. http://www.marshalls.co.uk/commercial/street-furni...

ETA can you provide a streetview link, or let us know what local authority area you're in?

ETA2 Elanfan above beat me to it. smile

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Original Poster:

5,512 posts

198 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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I've already attacked them on the drainage run off side of things. Councils came, they paid for a drain, paid a fine etc etc. It is now above board so that is out of the window!


Triumph Man

9,652 posts

199 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Threaten the workers with immigration checks

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Block them.
Or "DON'T PARK HERE" stickers on the windscreen with duct tape/gaffer tape/wallpaper paste.
Or pressure wash your access at frequent but random intervals, spraying the newly clened cars with st.
Or use one of your vans (have you got any?) to block their exit from the car wash, see how they like it?
Or big signs - "PARKING FOR OFFICE ONLY - NOT FOR CAR WASH USE"
Are there overhead cables? Every day, chuck a bag of quavers/wotsits/something bright and orange/yellow down, the birds will come by, and sit on the cables waiting, above the newly washed cars. Hopefully depositing their rectal contents over said cars. (Hey, it's natural, not vandalism)
It's a tricky one, no doubt.