Car sorned, anything I can do, WTF is wrong with some people
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Ive got a car with engine trouble (cam belt tensioner went) that I want to put back on the road in the near future. Perfectly good car.
I live in a rented terrace in a fairly modern development with parking spaces. I was told by the estate agent that a parking space was allocated to the house. So when the engine went and the tax MOT were due to expire I pushed it into the space and sorned it. Its been there a couple of months. Im working 7 days a week (have been all year) atm and currently away from home so I dont have time to fix it at the moment.
I get a call from the GF saying that someone has reported a 'dumped car' and the council has given us 7 days to remove it. Phoned the landlord and he received a call from the estate agent a couple of weeks back that someone had made a formal complain about a 'dumped car' FFS. He didnt mention it to us as he told us it was pathetic. He did say that he thinks they might be shared.
Is there a way I can find out if the space belongs to the house? Does it matter?
I have no details until I get home on friday and the GF is out... I presume theres sod all I can do about it?
Incidentally, if a car is on a trailer, do the rules still apply?
Its probably a good job Im so far away the way I feel about this legalised theft.
Why people cant just pop around and talk if theyve got a problem is beyond me!
I live in a rented terrace in a fairly modern development with parking spaces. I was told by the estate agent that a parking space was allocated to the house. So when the engine went and the tax MOT were due to expire I pushed it into the space and sorned it. Its been there a couple of months. Im working 7 days a week (have been all year) atm and currently away from home so I dont have time to fix it at the moment.
I get a call from the GF saying that someone has reported a 'dumped car' and the council has given us 7 days to remove it. Phoned the landlord and he received a call from the estate agent a couple of weeks back that someone had made a formal complain about a 'dumped car' FFS. He didnt mention it to us as he told us it was pathetic. He did say that he thinks they might be shared.
Is there a way I can find out if the space belongs to the house? Does it matter?
I have no details until I get home on friday and the GF is out... I presume theres sod all I can do about it?
Incidentally, if a car is on a trailer, do the rules still apply?
Its probably a good job Im so far away the way I feel about this legalised theft.
Why people cant just pop around and talk if theyve got a problem is beyond me!
In fairness, if there were a car parked in my little parking area for almost 6 months without it moving an inch and with no one going near it, I'd presume it was abandoned and call the authorities.
If you're working 7 days a week, can you not afford to have someone fix the car while you're away? You get your car back and can then sell it (you've not used it in 6 months, you don't need it, we presume). You'll make back your money from having fixed it and you'll probably have some left over for a nice little something or another for the good lady wife as an apology for not having been around much recently.
Sounds like a plan to me.
Simon.
If you're working 7 days a week, can you not afford to have someone fix the car while you're away? You get your car back and can then sell it (you've not used it in 6 months, you don't need it, we presume). You'll make back your money from having fixed it and you'll probably have some left over for a nice little something or another for the good lady wife as an apology for not having been around much recently.
Sounds like a plan to me.
Simon.
I had expected to need the reference number and other details but phoned the council and they were understanding. Theyve cancelled the collection! Its only been there a couple of months but apparently theres ambuguity on who owns the parking spaces and that has pissed someone off.
I would pay more to have it fixed, thats why its there so I guess it will be spares or repair as I dont have the time to fix it at the moment. As for the good lady, she understands work schedule as its the only way we can afford a house; its only for a couple of years.
I would pay more to have it fixed, thats why its there so I guess it will be spares or repair as I dont have the time to fix it at the moment. As for the good lady, she understands work schedule as its the only way we can afford a house; its only for a couple of years.
ferrariF50lover said:
In fairness, if there were a car parked in my little parking area for almost 6 months without it moving an inch and with no one going near it, I'd presume it was abandoned and call the authorities.
Why? I live in a small apartment building and their are a few cars that are older and look like they never move, id never dream of reporting them abandoned as they are A. not parked in my parking space. B. Its none of my business.
Its pretty clear that the OP if having some problems with someone thinking the parking space is theirs and not his.
Op - Could you check your deeds and confirm 100% the space is yours, then have your house number line marked on the space?
Similar happened to a friend of mine who had a old Alfa parked in a private road where he lived. Neighbors got snotty about it stored there (sorn'd) and had the council remove it while my friend was away for a few weeks, saying no idea who owns it etc. Council removed and crushed it before he knew it was gone.
If you can I would put a "notice to anyone" in the window with your contact details and fact it is sorn'd off road in private space etc (take pics), which *should* deter the council, or at least give you some redress / warning if they do want to take it away. Although I suspect the next thing will be a call from your landlord claiming breach of lease (but if it's your space, for a car, that's arguable).
Good luck.
If you can I would put a "notice to anyone" in the window with your contact details and fact it is sorn'd off road in private space etc (take pics), which *should* deter the council, or at least give you some redress / warning if they do want to take it away. Although I suspect the next thing will be a call from your landlord claiming breach of lease (but if it's your space, for a car, that's arguable).
Good luck.
Eclassy said:
Wish I lived in your neighbourhood. Very good council officials doing what they are paid to do.
Not if its private land. Many years ago a car I owned broke down. My property extended to the road, and there was no path (it was a concrete strip). I left the car there for a couple of weeks while I was away (in the forces). Someone reported it abandoned, and the council stickered it for removal and destruction. I arrived home with one day before it was due to be towed. The council would not budge from their stance that the car was abandoned, even though it was registered and insured at the house it was parked outside.
All they could advise me to do was move it, which is not easy when a car is broken down.
Foliage said:
Why?
I live in a small apartment building and their are a few cars that are older and look like they never move, id never dream of reporting them abandoned as they are A. not parked in my parking space. B. Its none of my business.
Its pretty clear that the OP if having some problems with someone thinking the parking space is theirs and not his.
Op - Could you check your deeds and confirm 100% the space is yours, then have your house number line marked on the space?
Because it's an abandoned car, it's effectively a really big lump of litter. If someone dumped a fridge or a sofa in my car park, I'd call the authorities. I don't see why the answer should be any different because it's a car. I live in a small apartment building and their are a few cars that are older and look like they never move, id never dream of reporting them abandoned as they are A. not parked in my parking space. B. Its none of my business.
Its pretty clear that the OP if having some problems with someone thinking the parking space is theirs and not his.
Op - Could you check your deeds and confirm 100% the space is yours, then have your house number line marked on the space?
As to "it's nothing to do with me" well, it is, because it's in my car park. It's not as though I'd drive about the country looking for abandoned cars. If I see a child drop a toy from a pram, I retrieve it and return it, I don't simply ignore it because "it's not my child". Similarly, I wouldn't ignore a seemingly abandoned car on the basis that it wasn't in my parking space. That approach seems very insular.
I'm not a busibody, I'm very much an advocate of live and let live, but odd things like abandoned cars mean that someone else has violated the social contract. That should be rectified. If a car turns out to be neglected rather than abandoned, then all's well. It it is abandoned, then we've had one more unsightly, potentially dangerous and completely meaningless object dealt with in a proper manner.
Simon.
As above, council are fine with it after I explained the situation.
I've had a word with my immediate neighbours and they are fine with it, told them it would be going soon anyway. One of them tipped me off to a guy opposite who is a known moaner. The hint from the council women was that he's annoyed as Im not paying 'road tax' on it. Why people cant just pop around is beyond me.
This is why I hate high density housing, entirly becuase of idiots like this guy, cant wait to buy a house with some space.
I've had a word with my immediate neighbours and they are fine with it, told them it would be going soon anyway. One of them tipped me off to a guy opposite who is a known moaner. The hint from the council women was that he's annoyed as Im not paying 'road tax' on it. Why people cant just pop around is beyond me.
This is why I hate high density housing, entirly becuase of idiots like this guy, cant wait to buy a house with some space.
Edited by economicpygmy on Saturday 24th May 16:07
economicpygmy said:
As above, council are fine with it after I explained the situation.
I've had a word with my immediate neighbours and they are fine with it, told them it would be going soon anyway. One of them tipped me off to a guy opposite who is a known moaner. The hint from the council women was that he's annoyed as Im not paying 'road tax' on it. Why people cant just pop around is beyond me.
This is why I hate high density housing, entirly becuase of idiots like this guy, cant wait to buy a house with some space.
I'm a director of a property management company and we do stipulate that all cars parked in car parks need to be taxed and insured - we don't care if they don't move but they must all have tax and insurance because we run and maintain car parks for the people who live there and spaces are limited. If somebody has a trailer, caravan or a camper van they use once a year or an old car, they need to buy or rent a garage to store it in.I've had a word with my immediate neighbours and they are fine with it, told them it would be going soon anyway. One of them tipped me off to a guy opposite who is a known moaner. The hint from the council women was that he's annoyed as Im not paying 'road tax' on it. Why people cant just pop around is beyond me.
This is why I hate high density housing, entirly becuase of idiots like this guy, cant wait to buy a house with some space.
Edited by economicpygmy on Saturday 24th May 16:07
We do this simply because the car park would become clogged up and unsightly and it devalues the properties.
ferrariF50lover said:
I am being unfair here but...
Do cars take up less space if they're taxed and insured?
Simon.
They often are dumped, they often are very scruffy, they collect rubbish, block the cleaning of the car park, they often are broken into and attract undesirables . . . it's an undesirable situation for any private car park.Do cars take up less space if they're taxed and insured?
Simon.
The car park is provided for residents to make their lives easier, as a service, not as a place residents can use to store their crap. If they can store an old car there then why not bags of rubbish, furniture etc . . . it very quickly gets abused in the rental market and it would ruin the look of the site.
I understand the OPs situation, but the rental market is not the place to be if you want to collect or store cars.
George111 said:
I'm a director of a property management company and we do stipulate that all cars parked in car parks need to be taxed and insured - we don't care if they don't move but they must all have tax and insurance because we run and maintain car parks for the people who live there and spaces are limited. If somebody has a trailer, caravan or a camper van they use once a year or an old car, they need to buy or rent a garage to store it in.
We do this simply because the car park would become clogged up and unsightly and it devalues the properties.
I think as a leaseholder I'd likely be working out how to get some control over the freehold and changing management company given one that behaved like that ( an ex director of a property management company We do this simply because the car park would become clogged up and unsightly and it devalues the properties.
)Motorrad said:
George111 said:
I'm a director of a property management company and we do stipulate that all cars parked in car parks need to be taxed and insured - we don't care if they don't move but they must all have tax and insurance because we run and maintain car parks for the people who live there and spaces are limited. If somebody has a trailer, caravan or a camper van they use once a year or an old car, they need to buy or rent a garage to store it in.
We do this simply because the car park would become clogged up and unsightly and it devalues the properties.
I think as a leaseholder I'd likely be working out how to get some control over the freehold and changing management company given one that behaved like that ( an ex director of a property management company We do this simply because the car park would become clogged up and unsightly and it devalues the properties.
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