Revision of penalties. End of war on the motorist. Not.

[FiF]

Maximum fine for motorway speeding now £10, 000.

Dual carriageway £4, 000.

Four times the previous figures.
Mobile phone fines to increase too.

Not just motoring fines. TV licence evasion. 4, 000 too.

Also first time magistrates will be able to impose unlimited fines for level 5 offences.

link

[omegac]

The maximum fine is for speeding on the safest kind of road, that makes sense!

I'd fine lorry drivers £10,000 for tail gating and likewise people who drive and use their mobile. My least worrying offence is speed.

[carinaman]

Isn't Rupert Lipton a bit out of date with regard to the £60 fine?

[Matthen]

Article is wrong anyway. Speeding fine is currently £100.

Utter rubbish though - Band 4, speeding on a motorway. Such a heinous misdeed.

[Gargamel]

What was £2500 worth in 1991 ?

[chris1roll]

When was the last time someone was fined the existing £2500 maximum for speeding?
I don't recall even the cases deemed worthy of the national news being that high, but I might be mistaken.

[Aretnap]

chris1roll said:

When was the last time someone was fined the existing £2500 maximum for speeding?
I don't recall even the cases deemed worthy of the national news being that high, but I might be mistaken.

As the actual level of the fine is based on the offenders income, probably the last time a very rich person was done for speeding on a motorway. A football manager, for example.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-...

It's a general increase in the maximum fines for all offences, BTW. Not specifically for motoring offences. So it doesn't really have anything to do with wars on motorists, though pretending it does is probably a good way to sell newspapers.

[Aretnap]

Gargamel said:

What was £2500 worth in 1991 ?

About £4400 in today's money - http://swanlowpark.co.uk/rpiannual.jsp so an increase was inevitable at some point - but this is quite a bit above inflation.

[aw51 121565]

Who will enforce this?

[Terminator X]

Yet another reason to stay out of the Courts though, perhaps it's just to "incentivize" us to accept the fixed penalties

TX.

[LordFlathead]

aw51 121565 said:

Who will enforce this?

The new HADECS 3 system will. A single camera system that can monitor 5 lanes if needed. Shows the speed of each car in each lane with 3 colour bands;

green = ok
amber = within tolerance
red = you've nicked son

Proposed to be enforced at 10% of road speed limit + 2mph

80MPH on a motorway would mean a fixed penalty.

Still laughing?

[Rovinghawk]

The conclusion from this is:

If you want to commit crime, go for theft or burglary rather than speeding. No investigation, lots of people such as social workers available to make excuses for the misbehaviour, little or no punishment.

[anonymous-user]

Devil's advocate:

Funny old world isn't it, the full weight of the law must be brought down on offenders but only on laws we agree with?

The rules have to be vigorously enforced in almost every other situation, but we're being persecuted by better detection and increased fines when we're breaking the law?

[agtlaw]

FiF said:

Maximum fine for motorway speeding now £10, 000.

Dual carriageway £4, 000.

Four times the previous figures.

You may have missed the point that these are proposed changes - the limits haven't changed yet.

[singlecoil]

Terminator X said:

Yet another reason to stay out of the Courts though, perhaps it's just to "incentivize" us to accept the fixed penalties

More likely it's to "incentivize" us not to exceed speed limits.

[Einion Yrth]

LordFlathead said:

aw51 121565 said:

Who will enforce this?

The new HADECS 3 system will. A single camera system that can monitor 5 lanes if needed. Shows the speed of each car in each lane with 3 colour bands;

green = ok
amber = within tolerance
red = you've nicked son

Proposed to be enforced at 10% of road speed limit + 2mph

80MPH on a motorway would mean a fixed penalty.

Still laughing?

Oh dear, it seems my reg plate has fallen off/ become broken. No-one around to spot that 99% of the time.

[LordFlathead]

Einion Yrth said:

Oh dear, it seems my reg plate has fallen off/ become broken. No-one around to spot that 99% of the time.

That is one way of doing it. Unfortunately you can only use that excuse once as after that I would imagine the offence would become "Perverting the cause of justice" or similar.

[Rovinghawk]

charltjr said:

Funny old world isn't it, the full weight of the law must be brought down on offenders but only on laws we agree with?

The rules have to be vigorously enforced in almost every other situation, but we're being persecuted by better detection and increased fines when we're breaking the law?

I have no problem with the concept of crimes being punished. My issue is that the only offences that appear to be punished are the profitable ones that require little investigation; laws in these cases seem to be enforced with disproportional enthusiasm.

[Megaflow]

The proposal is to quadruple *all* court fines...

[Rovinghawk]

I'm willing to bet that offences not involving vehicles can be paid off at tuppence ha'penny a week, whereas motoring offences will require cash on the barrelhead.

Maybe that's just my cynical side.