Driving To A Pre Arranged MOT Test
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I'm pretty sure it needs to be taxed to be on the road regardless of anything else.
I think there's an exception for a sorn car getting an mot.
But, sorn expires on change of ownership so you don't have that option.
You're just going to need to tax it.
Although, in practice, driving a new car home without tax will probably be overlooked by most plod, and if you buy tax before the month is out the computer system behind the cameras should notice what's happened.
I think there's an exception for a sorn car getting an mot.
But, sorn expires on change of ownership so you don't have that option.
You're just going to need to tax it.
Although, in practice, driving a new car home without tax will probably be overlooked by most plod, and if you buy tax before the month is out the computer system behind the cameras should notice what's happened.
Snowboy said:
I'm pretty sure it needs to be taxed to be on the road regardless of anything else.
I think there's an exception for a sorn car getting an mot.
But, sorn expires on change of ownership so you don't have that option.
You're just going to need to tax it.
Although, in practice, driving a new car home without tax will probably be overlooked by most plod, and if you buy tax before the month is out the computer system behind the cameras should notice what's happened.
Jeez, why do you post utter bI think there's an exception for a sorn car getting an mot.
But, sorn expires on change of ownership so you don't have that option.
You're just going to need to tax it.
Although, in practice, driving a new car home without tax will probably be overlooked by most plod, and if you buy tax before the month is out the computer system behind the cameras should notice what's happened.
ks like this ?How do you tax a vehicle with no MOT ?
Snowboy said:
I'll let you go and reread the op, specifically the bit about whether the car has an mot or not.
What you do after that is up to you.
I did.What you do after that is up to you.
Post no.2 answers the op's question in full.
Your post, as I said, was utter b
ks (not for the first time I might add).Edited by Red 4 on Tuesday 10th June 16:32
Snowboy said:
You asked how you can tax a vehicle with no mot.
I think that speaks volumes about how well you read the OP.
As for the rest of your post it was just aggressive and rude.
Nope, you said the vehicle needs to be taxed regardless of anything else.I think that speaks volumes about how well you read the OP.
As for the rest of your post it was just aggressive and rude.
You then said the op would need to tax the vehicle.
You are wrong on both counts.
Here's some advice for you - when you don't know the answer to a question it is sometimes better to appear stupid by saying nothing at all, rather than opening your mouth and confirming it.
My question about taxing a vehicle without an MOT was in response to the drivel you posted - not the op's question (which was answered in post no.2).
Now ladies... 
Actually not certain my question was answered in the second post?
Basically this, i have been looking at an XKR down south, the car has a couple of issues that need fixing, and as i wouldn't be putting it on the road till September i was thinking of the driveaway insurance and booking it in for an MOT to save taxing it or trailering it, but the car has approx 7 months MOT on it.
Actually not certain my question was answered in the second post?
Basically this, i have been looking at an XKR down south, the car has a couple of issues that need fixing, and as i wouldn't be putting it on the road till September i was thinking of the driveaway insurance and booking it in for an MOT to save taxing it or trailering it, but the car has approx 7 months MOT on it.
Humper said:
Now ladies...
Actually not certain my question was answered in the second post?
Basically this, i have been looking at an XKR down south, the car has a couple of issues that need fixing, and as i wouldn't be putting it on the road till September i was thinking of the driveaway insurance and booking it in for an MOT to save taxing it or trailering it, but the car has approx 7 months MOT on it.
You can MOT a car at any time - you don't need to wait for the previous MOT to expire.Actually not certain my question was answered in the second post?
Basically this, i have been looking at an XKR down south, the car has a couple of issues that need fixing, and as i wouldn't be putting it on the road till September i was thinking of the driveaway insurance and booking it in for an MOT to save taxing it or trailering it, but the car has approx 7 months MOT on it.
If the car is booked in at an MOT testing station you don't need tax FOR THE JOURNEY DIRECTLY TO / FROM THE MOT TESTING STATION - this does not mean you can take the piss and go visit your long lost cousin in The Outer Hebrides en route.
The car needs to be insured.
Are you actually going to bother getting a fresh MOT ?
The cynic in me suspects you are just trying to avoid taxing the car until September - remember you could tax the car and then SORN it and claim a refund (which might work out cheaper than an MOT).
The obvious question is why do you want to MOT a car with 7 months ticket left on it ?
Edited by Red 4 on Tuesday 10th June 17:39
Red 4 said:
You can MOT a car at any time - you don't need to wait for the previous MOT to expire.
If the car is booked in at an MOT testing station you don't need tax FOR THE JOURNEY DIRECTLY TO / FROM THE MOT TESTING STATION - this does not mean you can take the piss and go visit your long lost cousin in The Outer Hebrides en route.
The car needs to be insured.
Are you actually going to bother getting a fresh MOT ?
The cynic in me suspects you are just trying to avoid taxing the car until September - remember you could tax the car and then SORN it and claim a refund (which might work out cheaper than an MOT).
The obvious question is why do you want to MOT a car with 7 months ticket left on it ?
To avoid taxing it for his journey back from where he's bought it.If the car is booked in at an MOT testing station you don't need tax FOR THE JOURNEY DIRECTLY TO / FROM THE MOT TESTING STATION - this does not mean you can take the piss and go visit your long lost cousin in The Outer Hebrides en route.
The car needs to be insured.
Are you actually going to bother getting a fresh MOT ?
The cynic in me suspects you are just trying to avoid taxing the car until September - remember you could tax the car and then SORN it and claim a refund (which might work out cheaper than an MOT).
The obvious question is why do you want to MOT a car with 7 months ticket left on it ?
Edited by Red 4 on Tuesday 10th June 17:39
I admire his style, but think he's on a hiding to nowhere, if a copper finds him that thinks he's taking the piss, which he his.
The reason you're allowed to drive a car to an mot is you can't get tax without it, this car has mot, so I'll guess you need to tax it to drive it anywhere.
Well, it's illegal to own a car that's not sorned or taxed.
When you buy a new car tax remains but sorn is cancelled.
If you were to buy the car then legally you'd need to tax it or sorn it right away.
I'm not sure of the finer points of the law here. But sorning a car and then driving it on the road on the same day might be seen as taking the piss, and might get you a spot of bother.
Even if you use the mot excuse it's still taking the piss as it has a current MOT so you are able to tax it if you wanted to.
The 'drive to mot' law is to allow you to get an mot so you can get tax.
If you were caught I think you'd probably get a ticket and then need to fight it.
The actual outcome is anyone's guess, but it'll be a lot of hassle for the sake of one months tax.
When you buy a new car tax remains but sorn is cancelled.
If you were to buy the car then legally you'd need to tax it or sorn it right away.
I'm not sure of the finer points of the law here. But sorning a car and then driving it on the road on the same day might be seen as taking the piss, and might get you a spot of bother.
Even if you use the mot excuse it's still taking the piss as it has a current MOT so you are able to tax it if you wanted to.
The 'drive to mot' law is to allow you to get an mot so you can get tax.
If you were caught I think you'd probably get a ticket and then need to fight it.
The actual outcome is anyone's guess, but it'll be a lot of hassle for the sake of one months tax.
Edited by Snowboy on Tuesday 10th June 17:57
Humper said:
Just wondering here, if i went to see a car quite far away and decide to buy it can i book it in for a test and legally drive it there without road tax if it still has a current MOT?
When the bickering has finally subsided, can I just point out that if it has a current MOT, you cannot book it in for another MOT and take advantage of the exemption to drive it anywhere without tax...I do wish people would read the OP before launching into a tirade.
littleredrooster said:
Humper said:
Just wondering here, if i went to see a car quite far away and decide to buy it can i book it in for a test and legally drive it there without road tax if it still has a current MOT?
When the bickering has finally subsided, can I just point out that if it has a current MOT, you cannot book it in for another MOT and take advantage of the exemption to drive it anywhere without tax...I do wish people would read the OP before launching into a tirade.
TopOnePercent said:
Snowboy said:
Well, it's illegal to own a car that's not sorned or taxed.
Nope, it's not. Anything not taxed when sorn arrived cannot be sorned until it has been taxed. It is legal to own and sell.Shall we look at the rules and regulations ?
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1981/1694/conte...
6(2) lists the exemptions, including
"(2) Pursuant to section 44(6) the Secretary of State hereby exempts from section 44(1) the use of a vehicle—
(a)(i)for the purpose of submitting it by previous arrangement for, or bringing it away from, an examination, or"
and
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1972/20/conten... is the underlying legislation which contains 44(1) referenced above. This states :
"44Obligatory test certificates for vehicles other than goods vehicles to which s.45 applies
(1)A person who uses on a road at any time, or causes or permits to be so used, a motor vehicle to which this section applies, and as respects which no test certificate has been issued within the appropriate period before the said time, shall be guilty of an offence."
Nowhere in any legislation that I've read does it say that you must not present a vehicle for testing when it already has a current test certificate. Indeed, it makes specific provision for extending the validity of a new test certificate if the vehicle is presented within the final month of the extant certificate's validity (but it doesn't say you can't do it any earlier).
Now, the excise issue :
I think http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/conten... is current
Schedule 2, 22 states
"22(1)A vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—
(a)submitting it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) for a compulsory test [F45, a vehicle identity check][F46, a vehicle weight test or a reduced pollution test], or
(b)bringing it away from [F47any such test][F48or check]."
So, the answer to OP's question hinges, it seems, on whether or not submitting the vehicle for testing (or checking) while an unexpired certificate is available constitutes a compulsory test (or a check) within the meaning of those acts (and others which apply). That's an argument I shall leave to better-paid heads than mine.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1981/1694/conte...
6(2) lists the exemptions, including
"(2) Pursuant to section 44(6) the Secretary of State hereby exempts from section 44(1) the use of a vehicle—
(a)(i)for the purpose of submitting it by previous arrangement for, or bringing it away from, an examination, or"
and
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1972/20/conten... is the underlying legislation which contains 44(1) referenced above. This states :
"44Obligatory test certificates for vehicles other than goods vehicles to which s.45 applies
(1)A person who uses on a road at any time, or causes or permits to be so used, a motor vehicle to which this section applies, and as respects which no test certificate has been issued within the appropriate period before the said time, shall be guilty of an offence."
Nowhere in any legislation that I've read does it say that you must not present a vehicle for testing when it already has a current test certificate. Indeed, it makes specific provision for extending the validity of a new test certificate if the vehicle is presented within the final month of the extant certificate's validity (but it doesn't say you can't do it any earlier).
Now, the excise issue :
I think http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/conten... is current
Schedule 2, 22 states
"22(1)A vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—
(a)submitting it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) for a compulsory test [F45, a vehicle identity check][F46, a vehicle weight test or a reduced pollution test], or
(b)bringing it away from [F47any such test][F48or check]."
So, the answer to OP's question hinges, it seems, on whether or not submitting the vehicle for testing (or checking) while an unexpired certificate is available constitutes a compulsory test (or a check) within the meaning of those acts (and others which apply). That's an argument I shall leave to better-paid heads than mine.
Nigel Worc's said:
littleredrooster said:
Humper said:
Just wondering here, if i went to see a car quite far away and decide to buy it can i book it in for a test and legally drive it there without road tax if it still has a current MOT?
When the bickering has finally subsided, can I just point out that if it has a current MOT, you cannot book it in for another MOT and take advantage of the exemption to drive it anywhere without tax...I do wish people would read the OP before launching into a tirade.
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