150mph on the A1 deep do do's
Discussion
Dairymilk said:
Que "speed alone isn't dangerous.." and "nothing happened so it can't be a danger.." and "..he was driving to the conditions..." etc
in anticipation of the inevitable comments to follow.
Would this have still been dangerous if it had been on a section of Autobahn with no speed limit? If so then how much relevance does "the speed limit" really have to what is safe and what is not? Why are some people so desperate to self-righteously oversimplify everything? in anticipation of the inevitable comments to follow.You are trying to "prove" that all objections on PH to people being done for exceeding stupid speed limits are somehow equivalent to condoning the actions of this driver. And, as usual with the "speed kills" merchants, failing miserably to persuade the facts to fit your controlling world view.
GPSHead said:
Would this have still been dangerous if it had been on a section of Autobahn with no speed limit? If so then how much relevance does "the speed limit" really have to what is safe and what is not? Why are some people so desperate to self-righteously oversimplify everything?
You are trying to "prove" that all objections on PH to people being done for exceeding stupid speed limits are somehow equivalent to condoning the actions of this driver. And, as usual with the "speed kills" merchants, failing miserably to persuade the facts to fit your controlling world view.
It's my impression that drivers on the Autobahn will be expecting people to do these kinds of speeds and thus will drive and observe accordingly. You are trying to "prove" that all objections on PH to people being done for exceeding stupid speed limits are somehow equivalent to condoning the actions of this driver. And, as usual with the "speed kills" merchants, failing miserably to persuade the facts to fit your controlling world view.
People on the A1 will not.
TroubledSoul said:
It's my impression that drivers on the Autobahn will be expecting people to do these kinds of speeds and thus will drive and observe accordingly.
People on the A1 will not.
That's the difference. You learn on first couple of trips on the Autobahn that a speck in the rear view can become an S Class or a 911 right on your tail in the blink of an eye.People on the A1 will not.
The drivers are not really much better, if at all. You still get plenty of total fools driving half-asleep or driving like loons. The classic is the MPV driver (used to be Passat Estates when I lived there) who is frustrated with the way his life has turned out and thinks he should be driving a 911, so he thrashes the MPV to the limit. You can cruise OK a decent distance behind an MPV doing 220 km/h, but if he has to slow for traffic he will take forever to get back to his cruise speed and he'll be damned before he'll pull over to let by a proper fast car that can get up to 220 km/h in a few seconds.
Lost soul said:
Germans are much better drivers than the majority of Brits
I'm not too sure you will be able to find strong statistics to back that up.However, there are good reasons why the A1 is not analogous to an Autobahn. a) road surface is better on an Autobahn, b) sight lines and corners designed to take 150mph + into account, c) expectation from other drivers of 150mph+ vehicles d) acceptance by the government/population of different risk levels.
Discussions on the safety of travelling over the speed limit, or in this case over twice the speed limit are irrelevant as we all know that the legal speed limit which has been set for that road is 70mph, like it or not.
This guy chose to drive that fast, he also chose to drive without insurance, and chose to allow his children to roam about unsecured. He made those choices despite knowing what the consequences would be if he was caught. The courts have taken his blatant disregard into consideration and punished him accordingly.
It's unlikely he wouldn't have put inside if it had just been the speeding IMHO.
He was pushing his luck driving at 150mph, but was an idiot for driving with no insurance and having children unsecured in the back.
This guy chose to drive that fast, he also chose to drive without insurance, and chose to allow his children to roam about unsecured. He made those choices despite knowing what the consequences would be if he was caught. The courts have taken his blatant disregard into consideration and punished him accordingly.
It's unlikely he wouldn't have put inside if it had just been the speeding IMHO.
He was pushing his luck driving at 150mph, but was an idiot for driving with no insurance and having children unsecured in the back.
GPSHead said:
Would this have still been dangerous if it had been on a section of Autobahn with no speed limit? If so then how much relevance does "the speed limit" really have to what is safe and what is not? Why are some people so desperate to self-righteously oversimplify everything?
But it's not the autobahn, so it has no relevance if it would or wouldn't be seen as such there. Circumstances are important. The circumstances are that it's a UK motorway where people aren't anticipating or expecting such speeds when making their driving decisions such as over-taking, entering and exiting.
scorcher said:
WinstonWolf said:
We used to sleep in the footwells regularly on long journeys back in the seventies, helped us to avoid all dad's fag smoke 
God knows how we survived the seventies. The whole human race should of been wiped out with such stupidity. I survived..........
The best place to sleep in a Beetle was to hop over the rear seat and nestle down on top of the engine. Even more sleep inducing than a Hover 
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