Camera van facing the other way
Camera van facing the other way
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craigjm

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21,687 posts

231 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Tonight I have driven down a road in Dorset past a camera van but instead of coming towards it I drove past it and drove away from it. Didn't notice it was a speed van until I went past and at a glance speedo was 38 in a 30 limit. Do they clock you moving away from them or is it just towards them?

Edited by craigjm on Friday 4th July 23:56

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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It's not clear from your post if the van was parked, or did you mean it was driving towards you on the opposite side of the road???

If the van was moving and being driven, then it is not active at all. In fact I spent some time inside one last weekend at the Goodwood Festival, and the vans go out with one driver / operator. They are only active once parked and the equipment is turned on.

Usually, the van is parked so that the camera and speed detection equipment is pointing out of dedicated hatches in the back doors of the van. Sometimes, the van is parked in such a way that detection is from the side (usually on a bridge above a road).

It is highly unlikely that any normal speed detection is done from out of the front of the van. Looking at the equipment and the 'mounting bars' inside the van last weekend, there is no provision for forward-facing detection.

However.

There is at least one video example on YouTube of a speeding biker coming towards the back of a camera van, the speed was detected and logged, and the camera unit physically moved 180 degrees inside the van, in order to film the bike as it went past the van, to get the numberplate.

But as I said, under normal use, this is pretty rare.



SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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craigjm said:
Do they clock you moving away from them or is it just towards them?
Can be both.

Dave Hedgehog

16,371 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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SS2. said:
craigjm said:
Do they clock you moving away from them or is it just towards them?
Can be both.
some can do you on the front back and sides

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1280183/Th...


shep1001

4,620 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Yes they can ping you either way out of the back of the van, the only difference you will see is the speed appears as -038mph as you travel away from the van whereas you would see 038mph traveling towards it.


The daily fail article is a bit misleading, the additional cameras are not for speed detection but to capture images of the vehicle & driver or members of the public walking past should they be needed to assist with a prosecution.

Edited by shep1001 on Saturday 5th July 08:12


Edited by shep1001 on Saturday 5th July 10:46

craigjm

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21,687 posts

231 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Sounds like I will just have to wait and see then I guess.

caiss4

1,947 posts

228 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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It will depend to some extent whether there was any oncoming traffic. If there were cars coming towards you then there's a reasonable chance the operator will be concentrating on them as he won't see you until you've actually passed the van.

Did you react and brake once you realised? If you kept travelling at 38mph then he could ping you at his leisure once he became aware of you.

andyiley

13,632 posts

183 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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" driven down a road in Dorset past a camera van but instead of coming towards it I drove past it and drove away from it"

I am confused as to how you managed to drive past it and then away from it without driving towards it?

craigjm

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21,687 posts

231 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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andyiley said:
" driven down a road in Dorset past a camera van but instead of coming towards it I drove past it and drove away from it"

I am confused as to how you managed to drive past it and then away from it without driving towards it?
OK typed that in haste what I meant was -

Camera van was parked on left side of the road with me travelling towards the front of it. Only noticed it was a camera can after I passed the side of it and then saw the camera out the back of the van through my rear window

Edited by craigjm on Saturday 5th July 13:03

andyiley

13,632 posts

183 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Now I understand, I thought you were re-designing the laws of physics.

Who me ?

7,455 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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craigjm said:
OK typed that in haste what I meant was -

Camera van was parked on left side of the road with me travelling towards the front of it. Only noticed it was a camera can after I passed the side of it and then saw the camera out the back of the van through my rear window

Edited by craigjm on Saturday 5th July 13:03
Not being nasty, but here endeth the first lesson. I ALWAYS treat white and other colours of vans parked in laybye with great suspicion ( and more so if the van is parked tucked well into trees).. Most genuine white van men are self employed and seldom stop in laybyes in the middle of nowhere( except 42P). However, if it was not marked, it could have been an ANPR van .

Martin_M

2,071 posts

258 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
There is at least one video example on YouTube of a speeding biker coming towards the back of a camera van, the speed was detected and logged, and the camera unit physically moved 180 degrees inside the van, in order to film the bike as it went past the van, to get the numberplate.

But as I said, under normal use, this is pretty rare.
I had the same worries on a motorbike once - thankfully, I didn't hear anything more about it but it was only then I heard about these vans that allow the camera operator to swivel round. I reckon you'll probably be ok.

Mr Classic

224 posts

150 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Most vans round here park in laybys to chuck rubbish out of the back confused but detection is from the back of the van, either going towards or away from it, other cameras are to assist in prosecution of bikers etc, who don't have a front numberplate. This is to stop them just speeding towards a camera as they please.