20mph limits in York - no drivers caught breaking it!
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http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11406151.No_driver...
There is a theme of constant motorist bashing in York. It would appear money spent on this ~ £600,000 has led to Councillor smugness.
There is a theme of constant motorist bashing in York. It would appear money spent on this ~ £600,000 has led to Councillor smugness.
Similar story in Brighton. Even though only around 1 in 20 cars stick to the limit and I can't say I've ever seen a camera van on one of the roads.
I remember reading that the accident rate has actually risen since the introduction of the scheme, but I have no idea really.. the blanket areas are just increasing with councillors saying they're a resounding success. No idea to who, but heyho.
I remember reading that the accident rate has actually risen since the introduction of the scheme, but I have no idea really.. the blanket areas are just increasing with councillors saying they're a resounding success. No idea to who, but heyho.
It's worse than smugness the whole thing stinks.
The councillor in charge of this, Anna Semlyn, is/was employed by the 20s plenty campaign.
After costing us, the tax payer £600k, for no descernible benefit, she has now resigned!
She had no intention of being a councillor to serve the local community, but purely to enforce her one policy agenda where it was not needed and irrespective of the costs to that community.
An absolute f
king disgrace.
Come 2015 vote these irresponsible, idiotic, inept labour clowns out. (Don't get me started on The Lendal Bridge farce.)
The councillor in charge of this, Anna Semlyn, is/was employed by the 20s plenty campaign.
After costing us, the tax payer £600k, for no descernible benefit, she has now resigned!
She had no intention of being a councillor to serve the local community, but purely to enforce her one policy agenda where it was not needed and irrespective of the costs to that community.
An absolute f
king disgrace.Come 2015 vote these irresponsible, idiotic, inept labour clowns out. (Don't get me started on The Lendal Bridge farce.)
^^^^^^^ this, they are OUT.
These complete morons have wasted millions of tax payers (our) money on ill conceived, ill thought out and poorly implemented fk wittery ideas and now have the gaul to ask us what services we would like cut as they can't afford to do the things they were actually supposed to.
These complete morons have wasted millions of tax payers (our) money on ill conceived, ill thought out and poorly implemented f
k wittery ideas and now have the gaul to ask us what services we would like cut as they can't afford to do the things they were actually supposed to.Read the article?
"North Yorkshire Police says 'zero drivers' have been stopped at the roadside for exceeding a 20mph limit within York since its introduction, and its 'Safety Camera Team' also had 'zero data,' as it had not done any 20mph enforcement."
And there you have it. Just like everything else, you can have as many rules as you like but without enforcement they're useless.
"Parents of the two schools joined the campaign to get the current 20 mph speed limit implemented, which the council introduced last spring against North Yorkshire Police advice.
The force claimed it would make the road less safe and warned its officers would not enforce the 20 mph speed limit."
"North Yorkshire Police says 'zero drivers' have been stopped at the roadside for exceeding a 20mph limit within York since its introduction, and its 'Safety Camera Team' also had 'zero data,' as it had not done any 20mph enforcement."
And there you have it. Just like everything else, you can have as many rules as you like but without enforcement they're useless.
"Parents of the two schools joined the campaign to get the current 20 mph speed limit implemented, which the council introduced last spring against North Yorkshire Police advice.
The force claimed it would make the road less safe and warned its officers would not enforce the 20 mph speed limit."
Mr GrimNasty said:
Spreading to the entire Worthing area soon I expect, despite the mock public consultation.
Some have already started. I was stuck behind some old heap crawling along with '20s Plenty' posters all over it. More likely to cause an accident through frustration than prevent one.I don't have an issue with it outside schools (in term time)but blanket imposition leads to contempt.
Poko said:
Similar story in Brighton. Even though only around 1 in 20 cars stick to the limit and I can't say I've ever seen a camera van on one of the roads
Funny thing, I said the same thing to the Mrs the other night as we walked throughout the local 20 mph streets to the pub. Although my thoughts were "How the hell do you police a speed limit in a street with cars parked either side which leaves just enough room for two to pass each other so long as one car isn't an Audi being driven by a bird".
They haven't caught anyone because they aren't looking.
Poko said:
Similar story in Brighton. Even though only around 1 in 20 cars stick to the limit and I can't say I've ever seen a camera van on one of the roads.
I remember reading that the accident rate has actually risen since the introduction of the scheme, but I have no idea really.. the blanket areas are just increasing with councillors saying they're a resounding success. No idea to who, but heyho.
Isn't the statistic that the number of accidents in 20mph zones have gone up? Which is expected seeing as the total number of miles of 20mph zones has also gone up?I remember reading that the accident rate has actually risen since the introduction of the scheme, but I have no idea really.. the blanket areas are just increasing with councillors saying they're a resounding success. No idea to who, but heyho.
Mave said:
Isn't the statistic that the number of accidents in 20mph zones have gone up? Which is expected seeing as the total number of miles of 20mph zones has also gone up?
Might it be a lot of drivers are paying more attention to the speedo than the road, and of course the increase of numpty peds with those bloody head phones on or talking on the phone walking blindly across roads.
lbc said:
It was the same in Oxford.
No drivers caught speeding in 20mph limits as it was never enforced.
Just love statistics, as they can show whatever you like without the full facts behind them.
Oxford started to enforce them in 2012 when TVP got new speed camera guns that were accurate down to 20. Over 500 fined/convicted since then http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/11249256.Speeding...No drivers caught speeding in 20mph limits as it was never enforced.
Just love statistics, as they can show whatever you like without the full facts behind them.
We get this on occasions on one 20 stretch. Last bit of PR in local paper said something like 400 vehicles were checked and only one was reported. I'm not surprised as this bit of road has tank traps ,with cars parked on one side, and the pavement full of parked cars on the other side. The one thing that is absent in all these schemes is protection for those who chose to obey the looney limits over those who think that bully tactics will force the vehicle in front to go faster. But then the lack of reporting proves that the mothers union have no sense of vehicle speed, and the speed police are looking to be fools to believe them . What also amazes me is that on the words of a few mistaken persons a survelience operation is mounted, whilst a few of us have been reporting a suspected drug dealer with no action for a few years .I asked the SNT manager WHY to find out that not enough reports had come in .
Edited by Who me ? on Thursday 14th August 22:13
rsox87 said:
lbc said:
It was the same in Oxford.
No drivers caught speeding in 20mph limits as it was never enforced.
Just love statistics, as they can show whatever you like without the full facts behind them.
Oxford started to enforce them in 2012 when TVP got new speed camera guns that were accurate down to 20. Over 500 fined/convicted since then http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/11249256.Speeding...No drivers caught speeding in 20mph limits as it was never enforced.
Just love statistics, as they can show whatever you like without the full facts behind them.
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