Speed awareness course and insurance.
Speed awareness course and insurance.
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leigh1050

Original Poster:

2,462 posts

196 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Friend of mine at work has got to go on a speed awareness course.
His insurance is due next month and he doesn't know if he has to declare to hes insurance company that he has to go on the course.Does he?

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Only if he's asked.

Some do, some don't.

Funk

27,788 posts

240 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Most will ask.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Funk said:
Most will ask.
Quite the opposite, IME. For a start, none of the big comparison engines ask.

CaptainHogseye

617 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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When I did the course 3 years ago, the tutor specifically told us that we did not need to disclose our attendance to anybody, even if asked.

HTP99

25,408 posts

171 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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CaptainHogseye said:
When I did the course 3 years ago, the tutor specifically told us that we did not need to disclose our attendance to anybody, even if asked.
My colleague did a course a few weeks ago and this question came up, they were told not to disclose it even if asked as; a) they are now deemed a safer driver for having attended and b) there is no way an insurance company can find out if you have attended a course.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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HTP99 said:
CaptainHogseye said:
When I did the course 3 years ago, the tutor specifically told us that we did not need to disclose our attendance to anybody, even if asked.
My colleague did a course a few weeks ago and this question came up, they were told not to disclose it even if asked as; a) they are now deemed a safer driver for having attended and b) there is no way an insurance company can find out if you have attended a course.
And, because telling porkies to an insurance company is such a bloody brilliant idea !

I think Loon has posted that they can find out, as DVLA keep a database of the information.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

257 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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I did the course about 2 years ago.
I have never disclosed it.
Would you disclose a speeding fine which has expired? No

Once the course is done thats it.

martine

67 posts

242 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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If you're asked by an insurance company you must declare it - not doing so is illegal and may invalidate your insurance...the Speed Awareness Tutors are talking bollards (if that's what they said)...and I work for one of the current providers!

CaptainHogseye

617 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Nigel Worc's said:
HTP99 said:
CaptainHogseye said:
When I did the course 3 years ago, the tutor specifically told us that we did not need to disclose our attendance to anybody, even if asked.
My colleague did a course a few weeks ago and this question came up, they were told not to disclose it even if asked as; a) they are now deemed a safer driver for having attended and b) there is no way an insurance company can find out if you have attended a course.
And, because telling porkies to an insurance company is such a bloody brilliant idea !

I think Loon has posted that they can find out, as DVLA keep a database of the information.
Well he went to great pains to advise us of this and as such I had no reason to doubt him. That said I have never been asked about it by any insurer.

CaptainHogseye

617 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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martine said:
If you're asked by an insurance company you must declare it - not doing so is illegal and may invalidate your insurance...the Speed Awareness Tutors are talking bollards (if that's what they said)...and I work for one of the current providers!
Funny how it seems a number of them are actively miss informing those attending the course, unless thing have tighten up in the last three years

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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CaptainHogseye said:
Nigel Worc's said:
HTP99 said:
CaptainHogseye said:
When I did the course 3 years ago, the tutor specifically told us that we did not need to disclose our attendance to anybody, even if asked.
My colleague did a course a few weeks ago and this question came up, they were told not to disclose it even if asked as; a) they are now deemed a safer driver for having attended and b) there is no way an insurance company can find out if you have attended a course.
And, because telling porkies to an insurance company is such a bloody brilliant idea !

I think Loon has posted that they can find out, as DVLA keep a database of the information.
Well he went to great pains to advise us of this and as such I had no reason to doubt him. That said I have never been asked about it by any insurer.
Neither have I yet, mind you, I haven't done a course either.

leigh1050

Original Poster:

2,462 posts

196 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Thanks for the replys, I'll let him know.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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CaptainHogseye said:
unless thing have tighten up in the last three years
Earlier this year, we were told to tell the truth if asked. We were also told that there was no way it could be checked-up on. But that Admiral were the only company, that they knew of, currently asking.

PorkInsider

6,632 posts

172 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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CaptainHogseye said:
martine said:
If you're asked by an insurance company you must declare it - not doing so is illegal and may invalidate your insurance...the Speed Awareness Tutors are talking bollards (if that's what they said)...and I work for one of the current providers!
Funny how it seems a number of them are actively miss informing those attending the course, unless thing have tighten up in the last three years
Perhaps the misinformation isn't unwitting on the provider's part?

Less incentive to take a course instead of the points, perhaps, if your insurance was going to increase anyway?

Edited by PorkInsider on Saturday 23 August 19:38

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Nigel Worc's said:
And, because telling porkies to an insurance company is such a bloody brilliant idea !

I think Loon has posted that they can find out, as DVLA keep a database of the information.
Quite the opposite. We have no way of finding out unless you tell us currently.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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PorkInsider said:
Perhaps the misinformation isn't unwitting on the provider's part?

Less incentive to take a course instead of the points, perhaps, if your insurance was going to increase anyway?

Edited by PorkInsider on Saturday 23 August 19:38
It should have bugger all to do with insurance and everything to do with getting an extra "life" on your licence.

Why can't people see this instead of linking insurance?

JonRB

80,137 posts

303 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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This comes up so often we should have a wiki page for it.

In a nutshell, if an insurer does not specifically ask then you are not required to volunteer the info. If an insurer specifically and explicitly asks if you have attended a Speed Awareness Course then you must declare it under Full Disclosure rules.

Currently the only insurer who specifically asks is Admiral Group.


Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Nigel Worc's said:
And, because telling porkies to an insurance company is such a bloody brilliant idea !

I think Loon has posted that they can find out, as DVLA keep a database of the information.
Quite the opposite. We have no way of finding out unless you tell us currently.
Fairy nuff, I knew you'd written something !

PorkInsider

6,632 posts

172 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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LoonR1 said:
It should have bugger all to do with insurance and everything to do with getting an extra "life" on your licence.

Why can't people see this instead of linking insurance?
My point was that if a course provider told its customers to lie if their insurance company asked them whether they had attended a speed awareness course, it might be due to the provider's wish to protect its business rather than because it's the right thing to do.

Nevermind though.