One for BiB respecters and supporters to sign?
Discussion
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-grant-poli...
Theresa May is on the ropes. She's on the back foot. Perhaps she'll see sense and reason on the above issue and do something about it for her own political expediency?
Some have said here that Winsor has acknowledged that the cuts bit too deeply. Changing that police pension regulation may be one way to acknowledge that and give something back, a little concession?
Theresa May is on the ropes. She's on the back foot. Perhaps she'll see sense and reason on the above issue and do something about it for her own political expediency?
Some have said here that Winsor has acknowledged that the cuts bit too deeply. Changing that police pension regulation may be one way to acknowledge that and give something back, a little concession?
They won't even give cops the pensions they signed up for so why would they then give pensions to people who weren't previously entitled to them? The government also ignored the last 100,000 signature petition about pensions so what makes anyone think they will take notice of this one?
(i agree with the sentiment though i just cannot see the government changing things)
(i agree with the sentiment though i just cannot see the government changing things)
TC99 said:
I don't see why police get such gold plated pensions. Nurses, teachers,they have all suffered cuts, take your weight.
This is about a police officer's widow's pension.It may help if you read the link (after you've got off your high horse).
Edited by Red 4 on Thursday 28th August 15:25
Red 4, perhaps I should have linked to the main petition page:
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-grant-poli...
I can see the point ED209 was making, but denying a widow a pension reminds me of the insurance assessor quibbling that those that came back from Afghanistan and Iraq go through when what they get to carry on living with their injuries while Cameron goes on about the 'military covenant'.
Perhaps the petition won't change anything, perhaps petitions don't but it was interesting to hear the stuff on the BBC about the American woman appealing via Twitter directly to the 'caliph' to release her Journalist son and how Islamic State/ISIS/ISIL have used an 'App' to harness all the Twitter accounts of jihadists and wannabe jihadists.
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-grant-poli...
I can see the point ED209 was making, but denying a widow a pension reminds me of the insurance assessor quibbling that those that came back from Afghanistan and Iraq go through when what they get to carry on living with their injuries while Cameron goes on about the 'military covenant'.
Perhaps the petition won't change anything, perhaps petitions don't but it was interesting to hear the stuff on the BBC about the American woman appealing via Twitter directly to the 'caliph' to release her Journalist son and how Islamic State/ISIS/ISIL have used an 'App' to harness all the Twitter accounts of jihadists and wannabe jihadists.
These are the current regs she falls foul of
A pension for a widow, widower or surviving civil partner, normally of half of the officer’s pension entitlement, ceases on remarriage, the formation of a new civil partnership or cohabitation. A pension is not payable to a surviving cohabitee who was not married to nor in a civil partnership with the officer.
A pension for a widow, widower or surviving civil partner, normally of half of the officer’s pension entitlement, ceases on remarriage, the formation of a new civil partnership or cohabitation. A pension is not payable to a surviving cohabitee who was not married to nor in a civil partnership with the officer.
So did he die of a heart attack after doing his job, or in "the service of others"? 24 year old married to a 40 year old... 4 year old kid. Money clearly doesn't motivate this one.
EDIT - just to add, I don't really hold an opinion on whether she should get the pension. But the use of language annoys me. He didn't die as a result of his job, he died because his heart was in bad shape. Furthermore I don't see that after she gets remarried she would require a widow's pension as she's not a widow anymore.
EDIT - just to add, I don't really hold an opinion on whether she should get the pension. But the use of language annoys me. He didn't die as a result of his job, he died because his heart was in bad shape. Furthermore I don't see that after she gets remarried she would require a widow's pension as she's not a widow anymore.
Edited by photosnob on Thursday 28th August 17:02
But if you or I commit a crime we may go to jail, serve our time and become rehabilitated offenders so when those that commit crimes can leave them behind, a bit like PCC Shaun Wright saying 'I've moved on', should someone be worse off because they were married to someone that died and wants to carry on with the rest of their life?
TC99 said:
I don't see why police get such gold plated pensions. Nurses, teachers,they have all suffered cuts, take your weight.
Not what the thread is all about, but I'll answer it anyway. The reason the Police HAD what you call 'gold plated' pensions is because of the size of the wedge paid into the scheme. Paid every 4 weeks but 14% of the GROSS wage goes into the pension fund. That is a massive chunk of money. Valid this has only come in recently but before that it was still 11%. Bearing in mind FRS and MGS had a very similar scheme benefits wise, but paid in a fraction of that percentage from their own pocket. Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff