Caught speeding, but wrong reg number on paperwork
Caught speeding, but wrong reg number on paperwork
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Broch

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12 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I was caught doing 90mph on the A90 dual carriage last week, and given a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100 fine.
Looked out the paperwork tonight to go and pay the fine tomorrow, and found that the vehicle reg number on the paperwork is wrong.
What should i do? Is it worth contesting this slight slip by the officer, or should I just pay up?
What's the chances of getting this quashed?

Thanks in advance
Broch

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Old maxim: De minimis non curat lex. In other words, the law does not care for trifles*. Pay up.



* Loves cakes, however.

JustinP1

13,363 posts

261 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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This is called 'slip rule'.

That means they can slip up with something small.

It really doesn't matter.

I've been at an appeal at Crown Court with a police officer cross examined by barristers who even forgot the colour of the car he 'remembered' stopping. It mattered not. smile

accident

582 posts

287 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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so did an officer stop you?
if so ,even if you appeal it and it goes to court the copper will just stand there and say "thats 'im what dun it your honor" and you pay more.
take your points and move on.

speedking31

3,960 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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How did they find you if the registration is wrong? That should tell you all you need to know wink

Jayessgee

199 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Broch said:
I was caught doing 90mph on the A90 dual carriage last week, and given a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100 fine.
Looked out the paperwork tonight to go and pay the fine tomorrow, and found that the vehicle reg number on the paperwork is wrong.
What should i do? Is it worth contesting this slight slip by the officer, or should I just pay up?
What's the chances of getting this quashed?

Thanks in advance
Broch
Similar thing happened to me many moons ago. Wrong date written on ticket. Went to court to give it the old "I wasn't on that road on that date" defence. Plod showed his ticket book to magistrate which clearly showed my ticket sandwiched between two other tickets with correct date on. I got a £600 fine plus points for my troubles! Was 99.98 on an Mway though.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Jayessgee said:
Similar thing happened to me many moons ago. Wrong date written on ticket. Went to court to give it the old "I wasn't on that road on that date" defence. Plod showed his ticket book to magistrate which clearly showed my ticket sandwiched between two other tickets with correct date on. I got a £600 fine plus points for my troubles! Was 99.98 on an Mway though.
I challenged a ticket a few years ago, got off by a fluke really as the date on the camera was 24hrs out but the BIB weren't prepared to accept infallibility, maybe they picked up on it when/if a few people made the same assertion.

I wouldn't be 100% sure of trusting anyone's ticket book.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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speedking31 said:
How did they find you if the registration is wrong? That should tell you all you need to know wink
I would assume the officer took is driving licence details...

Why take the risk? Unless you are up for a straight out ban, why chance getting a tougher fine for the sake of a few quid and some points?

Broch

Original Poster:

12 posts

158 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Thanks people. Don't want to push my luck as I was stopped by an unmarked car with video evidence etc etc.
Think I'll just go today and get it paid. I may need to count to more than 10 when handing over the money..............

Broch frown

JustinP1

13,363 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Broch said:
Think I'll just go today and get it paid. I may need to count to more than 10 when handing over the money..............
Not if you pay with tenners!

It's not worth the risk. You go to court and you'll end up with 4-5 points, at least a £200 fine plus the surcharge to your 'victims' of £30 or whatever it is. As well as a day off work.

The only way these kind of slips are useful is if you are going to use them as ammunition in order to cross-examine the witness to demonstrate to the court that they are incompetent.

That's high risk, and only works if the errors are numerous and fundamental.

For example, when I was 24 ish I had to defend myself against three police officers, all of whom managed to put on their statement a different first name for me. When I pulled one of the officers up on this, to demonstrate his notes were bunkum, and he shouldn't rely on those on the stand, he fell apart, lied to the court and told them that the reason he got the wrong name was because I told them false names. His evidence was later discounted in the summing up.

mel

10,168 posts

306 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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I got done for doing 53 mph in a 60 mph limit once. I sought proper paid for advice rather than free internet advice and it was to pay up the £60 3 points and move on, if I'd gone to court they'd have been able to correct the slip error and I'd have been worse off. I knew it was a typo as I'd seen the video in the back of the police car and I also knew that if that got produced it would show me doing 93.