Best Small Van for towing
Discussion
Opinion needed...
The business is looking at purchasing a new van. However, I need to tow a caravan with weight of 1600/1800kg.
I do not want to be over the 3.5t weight limit (so to avoid needing a tacho) so can anyone advise a small van for consideration.
Caravan: 1800
Goods in van no more than: 600
Van: Max 1100?
Was think a small high top van but knew you guys here could do better than me!
The business is looking at purchasing a new van. However, I need to tow a caravan with weight of 1600/1800kg.
I do not want to be over the 3.5t weight limit (so to avoid needing a tacho) so can anyone advise a small van for consideration.
Caravan: 1800
Goods in van no more than: 600
Van: Max 1100?
Was think a small high top van but knew you guys here could do better than me!
daviddavies said:
Van: Max 1100?
Was think a small high top van but knew you guys here could do better than me!
A fiesta is 1500kg.Was think a small high top van but knew you guys here could do better than me!
http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasi...
Something smaller to tow a 1800kg caravan whilst carrying 600kg of gear?
Rovinghawk said:
A fiesta is 1500kg.
http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasi...
Something smaller to tow a 1800kg caravan whilst carrying 600kg of gear?
Towing capacity, not how heavy it is!http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasi...
Something smaller to tow a 1800kg caravan whilst carrying 600kg of gear?
I would go with a 2.0 Citroen Dispatch, or equivalent Pug or Fiat. I don't know of anything smaller with the towing capacity that you want.
Was going to move the question to a different one but don't know how...
Please can you put it simply for me....not really the best with all these different acroynms.
For example the three different caravans attached are most likely going to be one of the ones used....what (or can it actually be done) is there a small high top van available that I can use to tow this caravan plus an additional stock/equipment of about 600kg....or is this impossible?
Note: the caravan may be for personal use but the van will have stock in it....so its that 'grey area' of is it a commercial or personal trip and therefore up to police/a judge to deem....don't really fancy towing (pun) that line of the law as it will most likely go against me!
Please can you put it simply for me....not really the best with all these different acroynms.
For example the three different caravans attached are most likely going to be one of the ones used....what (or can it actually be done) is there a small high top van available that I can use to tow this caravan plus an additional stock/equipment of about 600kg....or is this impossible?
Note: the caravan may be for personal use but the van will have stock in it....so its that 'grey area' of is it a commercial or personal trip and therefore up to police/a judge to deem....don't really fancy towing (pun) that line of the law as it will most likely go against me!
daviddavies said:
Was going to move the question to a different one but don't know how...
Please can you put it simply for me....not really the best with all these different acroynms.
For example the three different caravans attached are most likely going to be one of the ones used....what (or can it actually be done) is there a small high top van available that I can use to tow this caravan plus an additional stock/equipment of about 600kg....or is this impossible?
Note: the caravan may be for personal use but the van will have stock in it....so its that 'grey area' of is it a commercial or personal trip and therefore up to police/a judge to deem....don't really fancy towing (pun) that line of the law as it will most likely go against me!
If you are towing with a total plated GVW/MAM/MTPLM weight over 3500 kg and any part of that journey is for commercial purposes then it comes under tacho rulesPlease can you put it simply for me....not really the best with all these different acroynms.
For example the three different caravans attached are most likely going to be one of the ones used....what (or can it actually be done) is there a small high top van available that I can use to tow this caravan plus an additional stock/equipment of about 600kg....or is this impossible?
Note: the caravan may be for personal use but the van will have stock in it....so its that 'grey area' of is it a commercial or personal trip and therefore up to police/a judge to deem....don't really fancy towing (pun) that line of the law as it will most likely go against me!
Journey means form home/base back to home/base
I think you may have missed my question...
1. I need advice on which van I should buy that brings me under 3.5t
2. I'm not the best with these acronyms
So...if I was to use either of the three caravans above plus 600kg of stock/equipment is their a van available on the market that will mean I stay under the 3.5t limit?
1. I need advice on which van I should buy that brings me under 3.5t
2. I'm not the best with these acronyms
So...if I was to use either of the three caravans above plus 600kg of stock/equipment is their a van available on the market that will mean I stay under the 3.5t limit?
daviddavies said:
I think you may have missed my question...
1. I need advice on which van I should buy that brings me under 3.5t
2. I'm not the best with these acronyms
So...if I was to use either of the three caravans above plus 600kg of stock/equipment is their a van available on the market that will mean I stay under the 3.5t limit?
First all you take the MTPLM of the caravan - lets take the middle one of your list as that is 1324 kg1. I need advice on which van I should buy that brings me under 3.5t
2. I'm not the best with these acronyms
So...if I was to use either of the three caravans above plus 600kg of stock/equipment is their a van available on the market that will mean I stay under the 3.5t limit?
3500 minus 1324 = 2176 so to keep under the 3500 limit you need a van with a GVW of 2176 or less
GVW is the same as - maximum permissible mass - on the V5 keepers form = that means the maximum the van can legally be when fully loaded and is what the laws go on
NEVER go on actual weights as they are not what the licencing and tacho laws are based on
R0G said:
First all you take the MTPLM of the caravan - lets take the middle one of your list as that is 1324 kg
3500 minus 1324 = 2176 so to keep under the 3500 limit you need a van with a GVW of 2176 or less
GVW is the same as - maximum permissible mass - on the V5 keepers form = that means the maximum the van can legally be when fully loaded and is what the laws go on
NEVER go on actual weights as they are not what the licencing and tacho laws are based on
Does the GVW of the van at a Max of 2176 include stock/equipment and the weight of me also or do we need to take this into account? Or is the 3.5t law based purely on the 2176kg GVW van plus the 1324kg MTPLM only?3500 minus 1324 = 2176 so to keep under the 3500 limit you need a van with a GVW of 2176 or less
GVW is the same as - maximum permissible mass - on the V5 keepers form = that means the maximum the van can legally be when fully loaded and is what the laws go on
NEVER go on actual weights as they are not what the licencing and tacho laws are based on
http://www.ford.co.uk/CommercialVehicles/All-New-T...
Ford Connect new - but only has 1200 kg towing capacity
http://www.granthamcaravans.co.uk/venus/venus-490-... = mtplm 1199 kg
That means with a connect van with a 2300 (2.3 tonne) GVW the total MAM will be 3499 kg
Ford Connect new - but only has 1200 kg towing capacity
http://www.granthamcaravans.co.uk/venus/venus-490-... = mtplm 1199 kg
That means with a connect van with a 2300 (2.3 tonne) GVW the total MAM will be 3499 kg
Ok, looks like I have some looking around to do.
Just to confirm though the 3.5t law is only the vans GVW plus the caravans MTPLM only? And does not include the weight of me for example? So a van 2,500 GVW plus caravan MTPLM of 999kg is 3,499t and therefore under, but if you add the weight of me it is over, but this doesnt matter? Or am I getting it wrong again?
Just to confirm though the 3.5t law is only the vans GVW plus the caravans MTPLM only? And does not include the weight of me for example? So a van 2,500 GVW plus caravan MTPLM of 999kg is 3,499t and therefore under, but if you add the weight of me it is over, but this doesnt matter? Or am I getting it wrong again?
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