Community service orders
Discussion
You will be giving up much of your free time.
Here you go:
https://www.gov.uk/community-sentences/overview
Here you go:
https://www.gov.uk/community-sentences/overview
Dr Jekyll said:
When someone gets one of these are they allowed to negotiate when to do it? Are they just told 'you will be at such and such a place from 9AM to 7PM on Monday'. Do people with large amounts of community service to do end up having to quit their jobs?
You do it outside of work. You should never have to quit your job. Ever. If you worked hours that made it impossible it would be referred back to the courts, and you would either be let off or given a fine.
The hours are done during weekends normally, or if not working they can be done when the probation service advise. They like to get you doing it during all your out of work hours, which is weekends for most people. In some cases it's an option to not going to prison, so you shouldn't lose employment because of it, it does however restrict extra work or if on call with work.
Can only speak for here but a Community Service Order (CSO) is a direct alternative to a custodial sentence, i.e. the offender would otherwise be incarcerated. Minimum sentence is 40 hours to a maximum 240 and they MUST be completed within 12 months of sentence.
Saturday's are a mandatory attendance here and only a genuine reason (medical supported by a line or serious family matter) will be accepted as a reason for non attendance. Those not employed or self employed can elect to complete additional hours during the week, normally seen with the larger tariffs. Local practice has been to issue 1 warning where an offender is not complaint before returning the matter to the bench that sentenced it. Historically they do not react well to an offender not taking advantage of an opportunity to avoid prison.
Local projects include painting railings and fences in public areas, litter picking, decorating churches and community buildings and providing catering assistance in the prison kitchen. Anyone that thinks a CSO is an easy out would be mistaken, the work is mainly carried out in the public eye, offenders wear orange HMP T-Shirts and the work is normally physical and supervised by uniformed officers.
Interestingly those sentenced to a CSO have almost a 30% lower rate of re offending than those sentenced to short prison terms.
Saturday's are a mandatory attendance here and only a genuine reason (medical supported by a line or serious family matter) will be accepted as a reason for non attendance. Those not employed or self employed can elect to complete additional hours during the week, normally seen with the larger tariffs. Local practice has been to issue 1 warning where an offender is not complaint before returning the matter to the bench that sentenced it. Historically they do not react well to an offender not taking advantage of an opportunity to avoid prison.
Local projects include painting railings and fences in public areas, litter picking, decorating churches and community buildings and providing catering assistance in the prison kitchen. Anyone that thinks a CSO is an easy out would be mistaken, the work is mainly carried out in the public eye, offenders wear orange HMP T-Shirts and the work is normally physical and supervised by uniformed officers.
Interestingly those sentenced to a CSO have almost a 30% lower rate of re offending than those sentenced to short prison terms.
papa3 said:
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Saturday's are a mandatory attendance here and only a genuine reason (medical supported by a line or serious family matter) will be accepted as a reason for non attendance. ...
Just out of interest, if the offender was single and had dependent children would they be expected to find childcare and attend?Saturday's are a mandatory attendance here and only a genuine reason (medical supported by a line or serious family matter) will be accepted as a reason for non attendance. ...
papa3 said:
Can only speak for here but a Community Service Order (CSO) is a direct alternative to a custodial sentence, i.e. the offender would otherwise be incarcerated. Minimum sentence is 40 hours to a maximum 240 and they MUST be completed within 12 months of sentence.
Saturday's are a mandatory attendance here and only a genuine reason (medical supported by a line or serious family matter) will be accepted as a reason for non attendance. Those not employed or self employed can elect to complete additional hours during the week, normally seen with the larger tariffs. Local practice has been to issue 1 warning where an offender is not complaint before returning the matter to the bench that sentenced it. Historically they do not react well to an offender not taking advantage of an opportunity to avoid prison.
Local projects include painting railings and fences in public areas, litter picking, decorating churches and community buildings and providing catering assistance in the prison kitchen. Anyone that thinks a CSO is an easy out would be mistaken, the work is mainly carried out in the public eye, offenders wear orange HMP T-Shirts and the work is normally physical and supervised by uniformed officers.
Interestingly those sentenced to a CSO have almost a 30% lower rate of re offending than those sentenced to short prison terms.
Interesting to know when the maximum hours and time limit changed? I had the pleasure of 220 hours nearly 20 years ago and it took me just under two years to complete. I understood that 220 was the maximum then? Mine was for a non violent, not an offence against a person/kittens/fraud/nasty stuff-I'm not exactly an arch criminal but I did deserve the hours.Saturday's are a mandatory attendance here and only a genuine reason (medical supported by a line or serious family matter) will be accepted as a reason for non attendance. Those not employed or self employed can elect to complete additional hours during the week, normally seen with the larger tariffs. Local practice has been to issue 1 warning where an offender is not complaint before returning the matter to the bench that sentenced it. Historically they do not react well to an offender not taking advantage of an opportunity to avoid prison.
Local projects include painting railings and fences in public areas, litter picking, decorating churches and community buildings and providing catering assistance in the prison kitchen. Anyone that thinks a CSO is an easy out would be mistaken, the work is mainly carried out in the public eye, offenders wear orange HMP T-Shirts and the work is normally physical and supervised by uniformed officers.
Interestingly those sentenced to a CSO have almost a 30% lower rate of re offending than those sentenced to short prison terms.
I started off doing recycling at the local rubbish tip and was then 'promoted' to gardening at local residents houses although there where no orange bibs then and the supervisor was generally a trainee social worker.
Getting 'breached' was the worst outcome for any misdemeanor-this generally meant a cheeky few days in the big house. I was breached once over a mistake over next attendance-their mistake, not mine but it did cause a slight quivvering of the eyebrow when I was put in front of the local Magistrate to explain myself.
TVR1 said:
Interesting to know when the maximum hours and time limit changed? I had the pleasure of 220 hours nearly 20 years ago and it took me just under two years to complete. I understood that 220 was the maximum then? Mine was for a non violent, not an offence against a person/kittens/fraud/nasty stuff-I'm not exactly an arch criminal but I did deserve the hours.
I started off doing recycling at the local rubbish tip and was then 'promoted' to gardening at local residents houses although there where no orange bibs then and the supervisor was generally a trainee social worker.
Getting 'breached' was the worst outcome for any misdemeanor-this generally meant a cheeky few days in the big house. I was breached once over a mistake over next attendance-their mistake, not mine but it did cause a slight quivvering of the eyebrow when I was put in front of the local Magistrate to explain myself.
Different laws down here, though based on the UK. Social work used to supervise here too but was taken over by HMP after a period of non compliance.I started off doing recycling at the local rubbish tip and was then 'promoted' to gardening at local residents houses although there where no orange bibs then and the supervisor was generally a trainee social worker.
Getting 'breached' was the worst outcome for any misdemeanor-this generally meant a cheeky few days in the big house. I was breached once over a mistake over next attendance-their mistake, not mine but it did cause a slight quivvering of the eyebrow when I was put in front of the local Magistrate to explain myself.
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