CCTV on my own car parked across the street
CCTV on my own car parked across the street
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Riley Blue

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23,209 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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My car, parked across the street, was vandalised last night and the police aren't interested. Is there any reason I shouldn't rig up a CCTV camera in my bedroom window to keep an eye on the car, adjusting it each evening so it's aimed at the car which is usually parked opposite under a street light?

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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What do you mean by the police aren't interested?

And what exactly is covered by the camera?

Edited by Mk3Spitfire on Sunday 26th October 18:30

Riley Blue

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23,209 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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I reported it by calling 101 and within fifteen minutes received an email with an attached letter stating they weren't visiting to examine the car even though I told the call handler there were footprints on the roof and I'm seen three youths walking away within seconds of it happening. Because I didn't actually see the damage being done, I wasn't asked for a description of them. The email also states that the case has been closed - here's a quote,

"When you discussed this crime with a member of my staff full details were recorded and all possible lines of enquiry were considered. I know that you are aware that due to the circumstances an officer does not need to see you.

Please be assured that the information you have provided will help to prevent and address crime in this area. The neighbourhood team will be made aware of your report and it will remain a part of our local crime pattern analysis, looking at trends in crime and seeking to identify offenders.

You will not be contacted again about your case, which will now be closed. However, if new evidence is found or other crimes occur that can be linked to the one you have reported, then you may be contacted and your case could be opened again."

The signature at the bottom of the letter is that of the Chief Constable of Derbyshire Constabulary.

Regarding the camera (proposed). I would zoom and angle it to cover just the car. There are no houses that side of the road. Is this likely to be permitted?

Edited by Riley Blue on Sunday 26th October 18:35

Bigends

6,195 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Riley Blue said:
I reported it by calling 101 and within fifteen minutes received an email with an attached letter stating they weren't visiting to examine the car even though I told the call handler there were footprints on the roof and I'm seen three youths walking away within seconds of it happening. Because I didn't actually see the damage being done, I wasn't asked for a description of them. The email also states that the case has been closed - here's a quote,

"When you discussed this crime with a member of my staff full details were recorded and all possible lines of enquiry were considered. I know that you are aware that due to the circumstances an officer does not need to see you.

Please be assured that the information you have provided will help to prevent and address crime in this area. The neighbourhood team will be made aware of your report and it will remain a part of our local crime pattern analysis, looking at trends in crime and seeking to identify offenders.

You will not be contacted again about your case, which will now be closed. However, if new evidence is found or other crimes occur that can be linked to the one you have reported, then you may be contacted and your case could be opened again."

The signature at the bottom of the letter is that of the Chief Constable of Derbyshire Constabulary.

Regarding the camera (proposed). I would zoom and angle it to cover just the car. There are no houses that side of the road. Is this likely to be permitted?

Edited by Riley Blue on Sunday 26th October 18:35
The letter should have a crime reference on it. They were a bit quick writing that one off though probably wont be much they can do

BobSaunders

3,110 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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If there are no houses the other side of the street then it shouldn't be an issue.

I'm going through the same process at the moment, more just for my own security when away from home. I've spoken to all my neighbours and made sure that they are happy and what will be covered. Some of them were a little skeptical of it so when it is installed they can come and have a look and see what it is covering, others liked the idea of it as it provides them additional security and wanted it to cover the front of their house.

agtlaw

7,423 posts

237 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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That's the problem with some of the bigger forces. Too eager to right things off, due in fairness to not having the resources to throw at it. Had that been mine or a number of other forces, you would have had an officer attend. There's always scope for SOCO, H2H, etc. I would be inclined to have a word with your local insp. Maybe not complain as such, but ask why they gave so little attention to it.
At least if they've made neighbourhood policing team aware, when they pop round you can show them your CCTV and ask what they think.

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Too eager to right things off, due in fairness to not having the resources to throw at it
Out of interest do these forces have enough resources to sit on sliproads watching cars driving past? I.e. Is is a problem with priorities rather than absolute resource availability?

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

294 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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supermono said:
Mk3Spitfire said:
Too eager to right things off, due in fairness to not having the resources to throw at it
Out of interest do these forces have enough resources to sit on sliproads watching cars driving past? I.e. Is is a problem with priorities rather than absolute resource availability?
Different resources ...those are traffic officers, who wouldn't deal with criminal damage, however if you found a beat officer sat doing nothing that morning that's a different kettle of fish.

fatjon

2,299 posts

244 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Phil Dicky said:
Different resources ...those are traffic officers, who wouldn't deal with criminal damage, however if you found a beat officer sat doing nothing that morning that's a different kettle of fish.
No, they are the same resources, Police Officers.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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fatjon said:
No, they are the same resources, Police Officers.
No. Different depts, different bosses.

Eclassy

1,201 posts

153 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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supermono said:
Out of interest do these forces have enough resources to sit on sliproads watching cars driving past? I.e. Is is a problem with priorities rather than absolute resource availability?
Or enough resources for 70 officers and 8 vans to guard an empty piece of land about the size of a football pitch in central London from approximately 15/20 terroristic democracy activists.



Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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supermono said:
Out of interest do these forces have enough resources to sit on sliproads watching cars driving past? I.e. Is is a problem with priorities rather than absolute resource availability?
Those cars on slip roads that you refer to...what were they doing? Were they waiting for a dangerous offender to drive past after an ANPR activation? Were they waiting for a disqualified driver? Waiting to do TPAC?

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
fatjon said:
No, they are the same resources, Police Officers.
No. Different depts, different bosses.
Both could nick me for, say, criminal damage or vandalism, though? Traffic officers don't just deal with driving offences. I've seen Road Wars, Police Interceptors and Juliet Bravo, I know the craic. teacher

Pretty poor performance by plod, though, OP. Sympathies. Could bring out the old line about "I've caught them, I'm about to stab one", and see how quickly they arrive - both plain and traffic cops, I'll bet.

cheeky

2,104 posts

295 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
No. Different depts, different bosses.
Same tax money, so yes it's about priorities.

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Those cars on slip roads that you refer to...what were they doing? Were they waiting for a dangerous offender to drive past after an ANPR activation? Were they waiting for a disqualified driver? Waiting to do TPAC?
A11 they're sitting measuring vehicle speeds pointlessly. Maybe sometimes doing useful stuff you mention

supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Those cars on slip roads that you refer to...what were they doing? Were they waiting for a dangerous offender to drive past after an ANPR activation? Were they waiting for a disqualified driver? Waiting to do TPAC?
A11 they're sitting measuring vehicle speeds pointlessly. Maybe sometimes doing useful stuff you mention