Pled or pleaded
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55palfers

Original Poster:

6,389 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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In another thread

The Scotsman.com is quoted as saying "The charge to which he pled guilty carries a maximum term of five years."


Is "pled" correct? Doesn't feel correct.

agtlaw

7,422 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Not on my watch.

fatjon

2,299 posts

244 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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It's correct.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

257 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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pleaded

matchmaker

9,077 posts

231 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Pled.

MrHargreaves

56 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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its pleaded, in much the same way as someone was hanged not hung

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Dived or dove?

Derek Smith

49,989 posts

279 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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The joy of the English language is that it is not regulated. The French post rules and regulations trying to stop their language evolving but they are failing. If you asked if 'Le weekend' was acceptable then both yes and no would be acceptable as an answer, although the best would be: it depends.

The answer to the OP's question is either either or both. It depends.


Higgs boson

1,105 posts

184 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Tribal Chestnut said:
Dived or dove?
Seriously?

sparkythecat

8,108 posts

286 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Even the grammar Nazis own site reluctantly concedes that pled can be used

http://grammarist.com/usage/pleaded-pled/

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Higgs boson said:
Seriously?
The question originates from a 'discussion' a couple of weeks ago. The outcome was an agreement that both would be satisfactory, bit there was an element of doubt. This thread stired the memory banks. So, quite serious, I am afraid.

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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"Pled" is the correct form for Scottish courts.

Now, can I introduce you southerners to the delights of "outwith" ?

matchmaker

9,077 posts

231 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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marshalla said:
"Pled" is the correct form for Scottish courts.
I never used anything else!

marshalla said:
Now, can I introduce you southerners to the delights of "outwith" ?
And how about "quoad"? "Simpliciter"? "Pro loco et tempore"? "Assoilzies"? biggrinbiggrin

Derek Smith

49,989 posts

279 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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marshalla said:
"Pled" is the correct form for Scottish courts.
Legalese is a form of jargon, a language all of its own. Outside of those limitations it should be ignored.

There was a previous thread about common law marriage, whether it existed or not. In law it does not but that doesn't stop lots of people being in common law marriages. My grandmother was for one, and I would not deny her.

The idea of a common law marriage in my youth was two people who both accepted that for all practical purposes they were married and this was accepted by the local community. There was a big difference between living together, which was for the immoral, and common law marriage.

In the old days, mere sexual intercourse was accepted to be promissory of marriage, a contract as such.

So if one were to suggest that there was no such thing as common law marriage, it should have the caveat of 'in law'. And anyone so doing should be relieved to know my grandmother is deceased.

So ignore legalese. Except in court, and not always then.


OutOfSync

220 posts

170 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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I always liked the Pope (Alexander that is, rather than the Pontiff) quote "Professionalism is a conspiracy against the leity". Industry-specific jargon is often a large part of that conspiracy. Of course using Latin doesn't count; that is plain cool.

There was a young man named rex,
Who had extremely small organs of sex.
When charged with exposure,
He replied with composure:
Non curat de minimis lex

blueg33

46,839 posts

255 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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When I was at school, alot of my fellow pupils used to say "Skad" instead of "Skidded"

eg "I skad my bike and hit a tree" (I think he hit it head first)

As far as I am concerned Pled is almost as bad.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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blueg33 said:
eg "I skad my bike and hit a tree" (I think he hit it head first)

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I bet he shat himself.

BOF

991 posts

254 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Since I readed this thread earlier nothing has made "pleaded" seem more apt than 'pled'.

BOF

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

196 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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"Pled" seems quite correct to me and is what I would say and write. But my early education was in Scotland.

One that I find bizarre is "lit" and "lighted". I cannot bring myself to think that "lighted" is correct, yet it is used constantly, especially in written English nowadays.

And a favourite "annoyance" is "whilst".

Nobody says whilst, but people constantly use it in written communications because they think it is "correct". Poor, uneducated peasants!

gareth_r

6,784 posts

268 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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marshalla said:
"Pled" is the correct form for Scottish courts...
Interesting.

I had assumed that "pled" was an Americanism that was gaining currency because of the number of American dramas on UK television.

Of course, there are words and spellings that we assume are "Americanisms" but are actually "Britishisms" that were current in the 18th century, and are examples of UK English changing while US English remained the same.