tracing hit/run driver.Ins/ police don't seem interested
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My missus (a driving instructor) got rear ended whilst on a lesson a few weeks back. She was slowing her pupil down (in a 30 limit)because of oncoming traffic passing parked cars on the opposite side of the narrowing road. She had checked her mirrors before slowing and there was nothing behind, but a few seconds later she heard a massive screech of tyres and got hit in the rear at a fair speed. The driver put on his hazards and walked off into a housing estate (before she had realised and was checking her pupil was ok.) Police were called and went to registered keepers house.(same estate as driver walked off into) No one was in. The car was taxed/insured but no MOT. Skid marks were approx. 150 ft + long before impact.
Police have spoken to registered keeper but he has apparently denied any knowledge. He hasn't (AFAIK) reported the car stolen either. Police have basically said they couldn't prove who was driving at the time of incident and left it to the insurance co. Registered keeper hasn't reported an accident or theft to his insurance company and they don't want to co-operate with my missus' ins.co. At the moment her car has been repaired and returned to her as she has put it through her own policy to keep things moving.
Best way of progressing forward now?
If someone had been killed or the car that had hit her had been caught on camera speeding the police would be looking for someone responsible for the act through the registered keeper. Is it worth escalating with them to try and get answers?
I thought his insurance co had a responsibility to third parties regardless of who was driving? Worth going through the ombudsman?
Her solicitor has hinted she may have to take the claim on the chin or claim through the MIB if his insurance co won't play ball.
Thoughts please?
Police have spoken to registered keeper but he has apparently denied any knowledge. He hasn't (AFAIK) reported the car stolen either. Police have basically said they couldn't prove who was driving at the time of incident and left it to the insurance co. Registered keeper hasn't reported an accident or theft to his insurance company and they don't want to co-operate with my missus' ins.co. At the moment her car has been repaired and returned to her as she has put it through her own policy to keep things moving.
Best way of progressing forward now?
If someone had been killed or the car that had hit her had been caught on camera speeding the police would be looking for someone responsible for the act through the registered keeper. Is it worth escalating with them to try and get answers?
I thought his insurance co had a responsibility to third parties regardless of who was driving? Worth going through the ombudsman?
Her solicitor has hinted she may have to take the claim on the chin or claim through the MIB if his insurance co won't play ball.
Thoughts please?
So the police attended, conducted enquiries, and decided there was insufficient evidence to identify the driver? There were no injuries, and so told missus to let insurance co sort it out? How is that "not interested"?
Of course if someone had died there would be more of an investigation, but they didn't.
Of course if someone had died there would be more of an investigation, but they didn't.
Since registered keepers of vehicles get a NIP in the post to nominate the driver on a speeding offense, it seems strange the police won't prosecute the driver for failing to nominate / keep records of who was driving it that day.
If the car was taken without their consent / knowledge isn't that theft?
If the car was taken without their consent / knowledge isn't that theft?
Retroman said:
Since registered keepers of vehicles get a NIP in the post to nominate the driver on a speeding offense, it seems strange the police won't prosecute the driver for failing to nominate / keep records of who was driving it that day.
If the car was taken without their consent / knowledge isn't that theft?
That was my thinking too. If he wasn't driving, the car wasn't reported stolen, surely he'd know who was driving at the time?. Or had access to the keys?If the car was taken without their consent / knowledge isn't that theft?
If she's got to take it on the chin or the Ins. Co.s go to court its not the end of the world, just be nice to think someone has stuck their hand up and is held responsible.
This is so ridiculous.
And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
Eclassy said:
This is so ridiculous.
And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
Firstly, it's the CPS who prosecute.And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
Secondly, that OP had been told he's being reported, that doesn't automatically mean he will be prosecuted.
Thirdly, you forgot to mention Driving without due care which was the primary offence.
Fourthly, you clearly aren't anymore familiar with the facts of that case than you are with this one.
Eclassy said:
This is so ridiculous.
And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
Firstly, it's the CPS who prosecute.And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
Secondly, that OP had been told he's being reported, that doesn't automatically mean he will be prosecuted.
Thirdly, you forgot to mention Driving without due care which was the primary offence.
Fourthly, you clearly aren't anymore familiar with the facts of that case than you are with this one.
Mk3Spitfire said:
So the police attended, conducted enquiries, and decided there was insufficient evidence to identify the driver? There were no injuries, and so told missus to let insurance co sort it out? How is that "not interested"?
Of course if someone had died there would be more of an investigation, but they didn't.
Ok - I agree it is not the police who is not interested but I do find it odd that the CPS would not drop a speeding offense this easily.Of course if someone had died there would be more of an investigation, but they didn't.
scorcher said:
My missus (a driving instructor) got rear ended whilst on a lesson a few weeks back. She was slowing her pupil down (in a 30 limit)because of oncoming traffic passing parked cars on the opposite side of the narrowing road. She had checked her mirrors before slowing and there was nothing behind, but a few seconds later she heard a massive screech of tyres and got hit in the rear at a fair speed. The driver put on his hazards and walked off into a housing estate (before she had realised and was checking her pupil was ok.) Police were called and went to registered keepers house.(same estate as driver walked off into) No one was in. The car was taxed/insured but no MOT. Skid marks were approx. 150 ft + long before impact.
Police have spoken to registered keeper but he has apparently denied any knowledge. He hasn't (AFAIK) reported the car stolen either. Police have basically said they couldn't prove who was driving at the time of incident and left it to the insurance co. Registered keeper hasn't reported an accident or theft to his insurance company and they don't want to co-operate with my missus' ins.co. At the moment her car has been repaired and returned to her as she has put it through her own policy to keep things moving.
Best way of progressing forward now?
If someone had been killed or the car that had hit her had been caught on camera speeding the police would be looking for someone responsible for the act through the registered keeper. Is it worth escalating with them to try and get answers?
I thought his insurance co had a responsibility to third parties regardless of who was driving? Worth going through the ombudsman?
Her solicitor has hinted she may have to take the claim on the chin or claim through the MIB if his insurance co won't play ball.
Thoughts please?
I've pretty well left PH for good but this was too good to pass on. You're really suggesting that an k surer that has their car buried in the back of another, with all the police photos and evidence to hand "isn't interested". Beat in mind the other driver "walked" away so his car was still there when plod arrived. Police have spoken to registered keeper but he has apparently denied any knowledge. He hasn't (AFAIK) reported the car stolen either. Police have basically said they couldn't prove who was driving at the time of incident and left it to the insurance co. Registered keeper hasn't reported an accident or theft to his insurance company and they don't want to co-operate with my missus' ins.co. At the moment her car has been repaired and returned to her as she has put it through her own policy to keep things moving.
Best way of progressing forward now?
If someone had been killed or the car that had hit her had been caught on camera speeding the police would be looking for someone responsible for the act through the registered keeper. Is it worth escalating with them to try and get answers?
I thought his insurance co had a responsibility to third parties regardless of who was driving? Worth going through the ombudsman?
Her solicitor has hinted she may have to take the claim on the chin or claim through the MIB if his insurance co won't play ball.
Thoughts please?
What a load of BS. I can't be bothered to say why but this is a classic example of the crap that's gets spouted as real by people who have no idea how the process works.
Tschuss said:
scorcher said:
My missus (a driving instructor) got rear ended whilst on a lesson a few weeks back. She was slowing her pupil down (in a 30 limit)because of oncoming traffic passing parked cars on the opposite side of the narrowing road. She had checked her mirrors before slowing and there was nothing behind, but a few seconds later she heard a massive screech of tyres and got hit in the rear at a fair speed. The driver put on his hazards and walked off into a housing estate (before she had realised and was checking her pupil was ok.) Police were called and went to registered keepers house.(same estate as driver walked off into) No one was in. The car was taxed/insured but no MOT. Skid marks were approx. 150 ft + long before impact.
Police have spoken to registered keeper but he has apparently denied any knowledge. He hasn't (AFAIK) reported the car stolen either. Police have basically said they couldn't prove who was driving at the time of incident and left it to the insurance co. Registered keeper hasn't reported an accident or theft to his insurance company and they don't want to co-operate with my missus' ins.co. At the moment her car has been repaired and returned to her as she has put it through her own policy to keep things moving.
Best way of progressing forward now?
If someone had been killed or the car that had hit her had been caught on camera speeding the police would be looking for someone responsible for the act through the registered keeper. Is it worth escalating with them to try and get answers?
I thought his insurance co had a responsibility to third parties regardless of who was driving? Worth going through the ombudsman?
Her solicitor has hinted she may have to take the claim on the chin or claim through the MIB if his insurance co won't play ball.
Thoughts please?
I've pretty well left PH for good but this was too good to pass on. You're really suggesting that an k surer that has their car buried in the back of another, with all the police photos and evidence to hand "isn't interested". Beat in mind the other driver "walked" away so his car was still there when plod arrived. Police have spoken to registered keeper but he has apparently denied any knowledge. He hasn't (AFAIK) reported the car stolen either. Police have basically said they couldn't prove who was driving at the time of incident and left it to the insurance co. Registered keeper hasn't reported an accident or theft to his insurance company and they don't want to co-operate with my missus' ins.co. At the moment her car has been repaired and returned to her as she has put it through her own policy to keep things moving.
Best way of progressing forward now?
If someone had been killed or the car that had hit her had been caught on camera speeding the police would be looking for someone responsible for the act through the registered keeper. Is it worth escalating with them to try and get answers?
I thought his insurance co had a responsibility to third parties regardless of who was driving? Worth going through the ombudsman?
Her solicitor has hinted she may have to take the claim on the chin or claim through the MIB if his insurance co won't play ball.
Thoughts please?
What a load of BS. I can't be bothered to say why but this is a classic example of the crap that's gets spouted as real by people who have no idea how the process works.
Door/arse/wayout.
scorcher said:
Just seems a bit of a lame effort to me! Hi, were you driving? No. Ok thanks.
I'm inclined to agree. Surprised the police didn't utter that phrase no one wants to hear "it's a civil matter"I fear you may have a rough ride ahead. Hopefully your insurance company is pro active and sorts the other parties insurer out for your loss who if the world is fair would then go and recover their losses from the lying scumbag driver.
Eclassy said:
This is so ridiculous.
And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
What was the result when this happened to you ?And on another thread here we have the police prosecuting a driver involved in a one car accident on a technicality of reporting an accident over the phone rather than in person. Whilst someone who obviously has left the scene of an accident is let off by simply saying 'I know nothing!'
pinchmeimdreamin said:
What was the result when this happened to you ?
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