Identifying a police officer
Identifying a police officer
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mrmr96

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13,736 posts

235 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Say someone dressed as a police officer knocks on your door and shows you a credit card sized object with photo, name and a badge.

What's the most efficient way to determine if they are real police or not? (Assuming you're not familiar with the standard ID card of your local force.)

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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If you're really not happy, phone 101. They should be able to tell you if it's a cop at your door.

Cat

3,134 posts

300 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Phone 101 and tell them that someone claiming to be PC Whoever is at your door, they will contact the officer and confirm that it is them at your door.

Cat

sebhaque

6,535 posts

212 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I was told a few years ago you could also ring 999 if you were concerned about safety (i.e. you got pulled over on a pitch black A-road and the guy at your door didn't look like a policeman) and they'd confirm to you.

Furthermore, I have also heard that if you're in a car and get the B&Ts, you can drive to the nearest police station if you're concerned as to the validity of the car trying to pull you over.

This is all hearsay and isn't necessarily true - would welcome responses from our resident BiBs/those in the know.

Bigends

6,195 posts

159 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Ring 101 nd ask for the force thats on their warrant card. Force A wont knoe about force B's officers

mrmr96

Original Poster:

13,736 posts

235 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Is the 101 service available 24/7 and is the response/verification time likely to be reasonably prompt if you tell them there's people at your door?

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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It is 24/7. It can take an age for someone to answer though.
Is this hypothetical, or an actual experience?

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Demand trial by combat.

Digger

17,008 posts

222 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Mk3Spitfire said:
It is 24/7. It can take an age for someone to answer though.
Is this hypothetical, or an actual experience?
What do you think? Go to bed. smile

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Digger said:
What do you think? Go to bed. smile
Well, it is late I suppose.

mph1977

12,467 posts

199 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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mrmr96 said:
Is the 101 service available 24/7 and is the response/verification time likely to be reasonably prompt if you tell them there's people at your door?
101 is the standard number to contact the Police in the UK, 999 should be reserved for threat to life incidents and serious crimes in progress.

101 and 999 are answered by the same call takers in the same control room with the same access to the police command and control systems and to the senior Officer on Control room duty ( of Inspector rank at least).

MoggieMinor

471 posts

176 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I thought Police uniform etc was hard to get hold of and strictly controlled when used by TV companies etc. A mate of mine had an ex Police Rover 827 and had to remove most of the markings if he wanted to drive it apart from at a show. It was a nice bit of kit at the time actually.

un1corn

2,143 posts

168 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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In fairness, i'd say this would apply more to none-uniform officers.

Im sure someone in a suit could turn up and claim they were a detective.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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un1corn said:
In fairness, i'd say this would apply more to none-uniform officers.

Im sure someone in a suit could turn up and claim they were a detective.
My thoughts exactly, the only times I was ever asked was by knobs trying to be clever.

Although, as stated, if you're unsure ring 101, as long as it isn't an emergency, (in which case he'll do whatever), a constable will always be willing to wait.

grumpy52

6,079 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Standard security training for drivers of high value loads is if doubt about the
I D of any official (police, VOSA etc ) is lock the doors and phone the police , they will then confirm who they are .
The only person who got the hump was a jumped up VOSA officer who didn't like having to provide his ID .

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Got sent to a broken down G4S cash in transit van once. Poor bloke had broken down in the absolute middle of nowhere, in the dead of night, and was on his own. We turned up in fully marked car, full uniform, warrant cards, the lot. The guy still barricaded himself in and wouldn't get out. Recovery truck arrived and it wasn't until the van was on the back of the truck that he finally released himself! Can't blame the bloke at all, so left him be.

MagneticMeerkat

1,763 posts

236 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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I had someone ask me to identify myself once (a long time ago when I did such things for a living). I was wearing a police uniform, including stab vest, kit belt and hat. I was in possession of an obviously working police radio and had got out of a fully marked up police car parked in front of their front door.

I asked them a few questions in relation to some hopeless enquiry about something being stolen; as that was all that ever happened in such rural climes. Still they seemed doubtful and questioned my providence. All I could think of saying in response was: "No, it's a very elaborate fancy dress costume". They took my word for it after that!

Monkeylegend

29,545 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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The most effective way is to knock their helmet off and see if you get arrested.