Discretion - where would you draw the line?
Discussion
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/watch-a-mount...
A motorcyclist ignoring the 20 mph limit, and pulling a wheelie in the City of London has been let off with a verbal warning, and the officer suggested that the rider published the video from his helmet camera to show how stupid the rider was!
Aside from the fact that the officer should have ensured this by seizing the video himself to publish, do you think the officers action were fair?
I can't help thinking that a car driver at that speed might not have been so lucky, but is this on the edge of discretionary response?
I take it that it wasn't Von Hosen on the horse!!
A motorcyclist ignoring the 20 mph limit, and pulling a wheelie in the City of London has been let off with a verbal warning, and the officer suggested that the rider published the video from his helmet camera to show how stupid the rider was!
Aside from the fact that the officer should have ensured this by seizing the video himself to publish, do you think the officers action were fair?
I can't help thinking that a car driver at that speed might not have been so lucky, but is this on the edge of discretionary response?
I take it that it wasn't Von Hosen on the horse!!
Pickled Piper said:
Motorcyclist got lucky. Probably because mounted Plod didn't have the necessary paperwork with him and it would have been hard work to get a traffic officer out to assist him.
pp
That sums it up, it was in the too difficult box. There should have been a rider facing a DD charge and a 12 month ban, now we have a bike rider who is free to pull more wheelies...that can't be right.pp
Pickled Piper said:
Motorcyclist got lucky. Probably because mounted Plod didn't have the necessary paperwork with him and it would have been hard work to get a traffic officer out to assist him.
pp
He could have written what he needed on a tissue if he was inclined to report him, or any other local officer could have brought him something more formal if he wanted more.pp
vonhosen said:
Pickled Piper said:
Motorcyclist got lucky. Probably because mounted Plod didn't have the necessary paperwork with him and it would have been hard work to get a traffic officer out to assist him.
pp
He could have written what he needed on a tissue if he was inclined to report him, or any other local officer could have brought him something more formal if he wanted more.pp
herewego said:
He should have booked at the point when the lad said "22 max" 
, but I suspect they don't carry paperwork on a horse. Those horses are good aren't they.
I did LOL when he said "22 Max"., but I suspect they don't carry paperwork on a horse. Those horses are good aren't they.If you watch the video on Youtube in 1080p and slow motion - you can see his digital speedo gets up to at least 71 at around the 10 second mark. He was doing 67 whilst still in the wheelie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVubZ0Oegy4
They guy's comments on the vid are also interesting. He claims the bike is modified so the speedo reading is not accurate.....hmmm.
Does anyone know where in London this vid was taken - shouldn't be difficult to do a quick time vs distance calculation to work out an approximate speed (something tells me it'll be slightly more than 22mph).
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 18th November 18:28
The way I read it the Officer took into account it was an empty one way street ( he was back on 2 wheels and alot slower by the time he gets to the pedestrians) and the rider was apologetic all along (bit cheeky with the 22 though 
)
So officer decided a few well chosen words were what was required.
Had it been on a busy road or had the rider been smug/argumentative I'm sure it would have ended differently.
Is this not the way we want our police to behave ?
)So officer decided a few well chosen words were what was required.
Had it been on a busy road or had the rider been smug/argumentative I'm sure it would have ended differently.
Is this not the way we want our police to behave ?
The trouble is that even though we PHers like the idea of discretion (especially for ourselves), I wonder how effective we actually think it is. I don't think a telling off works all that well to prevent the same behaviour happening again. Do we think a wheelying biker will now reform and desist? Dunno, but I doubt it!
Bert
Bert
Bigends said:
vonhosen said:
Pickled Piper said:
Motorcyclist got lucky. Probably because mounted Plod didn't have the necessary paperwork with him and it would have been hard work to get a traffic officer out to assist him.
pp
He could have written what he needed on a tissue if he was inclined to report him, or any other local officer could have brought him something more formal if he wanted more.pp
Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 18th November 20:58
Moonhawk said:
herewego said:
He should have booked at the point when the lad said "22 max" , but I suspect they don't carry paperwork on a horse. Those horses are good aren't they.
I did LOL when he said "22 Max"., but I suspect they don't carry paperwork on a horse. Those horses are good aren't they.If you watch the video on Youtube in 1080p and slow motion - you can see his digital speedo gets up to at least 71 at around the 10 second mark. He was doing 67 whilst still in the wheelie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVubZ0Oegy4
They guy's comments on the vid are also interesting. He claims the bike is modified so the speedo reading is not accurate.....hmmm.
Does anyone know where in London this vid was taken - shouldn't be difficult to do a quick time vs distance calculation to work out an approximate speed (something tells me it'll be slightly more than 22mph).
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 18th November 18:28
Bigends said:
crusty said:
emmaT2014 said:
now we have a bike rider who is free to pull more wheelies...that can't be right.
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