Amusing attempt at extortion

[Pablo68]

So the wife allegedly came back to her car today to find this on the windscreen:



Note that this is in:
A) A private car park for a shopping center which is
B) Free to park in.

Also note that she didn't allegedly overstay or similar, but apparently the car committed the contravention of obstructing other users (she didn't).

So by my figuring they have lost nothing (Free car park and no one prevented from using it) and they are attempting to extort money by making st up that they have no legal right to charge for anyway, so frankly they can go fk themselves.

A letter will going out to the owners of the shopping center that they are employing the services of those who are putting the frightners on their customers.

Moderator edit: less of the defamatory accusations please.

Edited by jeremyc on Tuesday 9th December 23:09

[Himself]

Pablo68 said:

So the wife allegedly came back to her car today to find this on the windscreen:

Allegedly?

[Pablo68]

Himself said:

Pablo68 said:

So the wife allegedly came back to her car today to find this on the windscreen:

Allegedly?

Well if anyone asks it may never have happened.

[silentbrown]

Pablo68 said:

apparently the car committed the contravention of obstructing other users

Not parked prettily within a space, maybe? Jeeps aren't small.

[Pablo68]

silentbrown said:

Pablo68 said:

apparently the car committed the contravention of obstructing other users

Not parked prettily within a space, maybe? Jeeps aren't small.

Pretty much, but not so as to take up two spaces. So as I said, they lost nothing so the scamming thieves can fk off.

[andburg]

not that I'd be distrusting of the wife or the parking co but I'd be asking for evidence of the infraction, the document doesn't exactly look great!

[Himself]

Pablo68 said:

Well if anyone asks it may never have happened.

Really? How did the wife, car and ticket get home then?

[TooMany2cvs]

Himself said:

Really? How did the wife, car and ticket get home then?

His friend's wife's friend.

[threespires]

andburg said:

not that I'd be distrusting of the wife or the parking co but I'd be asking for evidence of the infraction, the document doesn't exactly look great!

I'd agree, evidence please.

[threespires]

andburg said:

not that I'd be distrusting of the wife or the parking co but I'd be asking for evidence of the infraction, the document doesn't exactly look great!

I'd agree, evidence please.

[Himself]

TooMany2cvs said:

His friend's wife's friend.

Or lover...

[daemon]

Pablo68 said:

silentbrown said:

Pablo68 said:

apparently the car committed the contravention of obstructing other users

Not parked prettily within a space, maybe? Jeeps aren't small.

Pretty much, but not so as to take up two spaces. So as I said, they lost nothing so the scamming thieves can fk off.

I think thats pretty much the bottom line, they dont have authority to make you pay.

BUT chances are its because shes not been parked fully in a parking space.

[Cyberprog]

I like the bit that says "It is an offence for an unauthorised person to remove or interfere with this notice" at the top.

I'd love to know what bit of law they were going to rely upon for that.

Anyway.

1. 1 Challenge to Parking Company on all the grounds you can think of, including that £50 (or £25) is not a genuine pre-estimate of their loss, including that it's a free carpark.
2. 2 Challenge to POPLA (Workflow dynamics are a BPA member so POPLA is the appeals process).
3. 3 If it goes to court, ask to have it stayed until after the current Parking Eye vs Beavis appeal.

[aw51 121565]

Pablo68 said:

Himself said:

Pablo68 said:

So the wife allegedly came back to her car today to find this on the windscreen:

Allegedly?

Well if anyone asks it may never have happened.

You are seriously going to have to do better than that...

As well as sound advice above re: appealing, also write in the third person, eg "the driver drove into the car park" and "the vehicle was parked" and specifically NOT "my wife drove the car into the car park" and "my wife parked the car" for just two examples.

Do not name the driver or suggest you know who they were .

[anonymous-user]

silentbrown said:

Pablo68 said:

apparently the car committed the contravention of obstructing other users

Not parked prettily within a space, maybe? Jeeps aren't small.

Did the OPs missus take pictures of the 'crime scene' if not why not?

[speedking31]

speedyguy said:

Did the OPs missus take pictures of the 'crime scene' if not why not?

Yes. Having moved the vehicle into a more fitting position

[Red Devil]

Cyberprog said:

I like the bit that says "It is an offence for an unauthorised person to remove or interfere with this notice" at the top.

I'd love to know what bit of law they were going to rely upon for that.

None. They have plucked in straight from page 42 of the book entitled 'What Made Up S*** Can We Use This Time?'
And even if it was legit how would the 'unauthorised person' be identified in order for them to be prosecuted?

The alleged contravention is much too vague. In what way have other users been obstructed?
Furthermore they haven't even had the wit to steal a real code from the Local Authority lists.
In London - http://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/Co...
Elsewhere - http://www.patrol-uk.info/patrol/info/1/parking/23...

The other hilarious item is Officer ID. Another dressing up in order to make seem like a local authority PCN issued by a CEO. In a private car park in a shopping centre the 'Officer' is more likely to be someone on the minimum wage clad in a cheap workwear uniform. Maybe the employer has even splashed out on a hi-viz as well.

Cyberprog said:

Anyway.

1. 1 Challenge to Parking Company on all the grounds you can think of, including that £50 (or £25) is not a genuine pre-estimate of their loss, including that it's a free carpark.
2. 2 Challenge to POPLA (Workflow dynamics are a BPA member so POPLA is the appeals process).
3. 3 If it goes to court, ask to have it stayed until after the current Parking Eye vs Beavis appeal.

^^This^^

Also, what signage was there and what did it say? Photos thereof might be a good idea.

speedking31 said:

speedyguy said:

Did the OPs missus take pictures of the 'crime scene' if not why not?

Yes. Having moved the vehicle into a more fitting position

#
A more pertinent question might be did 'WDL107' take any...?

[The Mad Monk]

Pablo68 said:

A) A private car park for a shopping center ....

shopping center

Once you are back in the UK, I suggest that you forget about it.

[daemon]

Cyberprog said:

I like the bit that says "It is an offence for an unauthorised person to remove or interfere with this notice" at the top.

I'd love to know what bit of law they were going to rely upon for that.

Anyway.

1. 1 Challenge to Parking Company on all the grounds you can think of, including that £50 (or £25) is not a genuine pre-estimate of their loss, including that it's a free carpark.
2. 2 Challenge to POPLA (Workflow dynamics are a BPA member so POPLA is the appeals process).
3. 3 If it goes to court, ask to have it stayed until after the current Parking Eye vs Beavis appeal.

OR

1. 4 wipe your ass with it and throw it down the toilet.

[andrew]

send them a similar, poorly written, notice, charging them for obstructing your friend's windscreen