Car tax disc question

[Monkey boy 1]

I know the rules have changed about tax discs but i have a bit of a conundrum.

One of my sons recently bought a new car (new to him that is) and the seller still had a tax disc in the windscreen which is due to expire at the end of this month (Feb).

Now my question is that, as the seller did not surrendered the tax disc, is the car legally taxed until the end of the month or would he have to purchase tax on line, meaning that DVLA would have had two payments for Feb on the same vehicle therefore gaining a few pennies for themselves ?

[ryanthescot]

The tax no longer stays with the car when it gets sold. So your son will have to tax the car and the DVLA will laugh their way to the bank.

[danzltiu]

My understanding is the tax stays with the seller i.e. to get refund if more than a month to go. Buyer always now has to tax the vehicle from purchase date.

[danzltiu]

My understanding is the tax stays with the seller i.e. to get refund if more than a month to go. Buyer always now has to tax the vehicle from purchase date.

[Monkey boy 1]

That was my thoughts, but just needed to confirm

Thanks

MB1

[paintman]

You can tax it online using the long number on the "New keeper supplement" you were given when you bought it. Did that at the back end of last year.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax

[MMT]

Unless the car was previously taxed by a disabled driver. I drove 4 hours to Norwich to buy a car last week, insurance primed and details in hand for tax. Decided I'd have the car, handed over the cash etc rang the insurance, but the tax wouldn't work online. We rang the number, but no answer there. So next day manages to get through to be told it has to be done at the post office using a V62 form.
So don't get caught out with that one.

[LoonR1]

By my reckoning the most that DVLA can pocket extra is less than £50. Hardly going to set the world on fire is it?

[imagineifyeswill]

Not on one car it isnt but how many cars change hands over the space of a week, month, year, DVLA will be doing very well out of it.

[Bigends]

My sons just bought a car - you can tax online using the long number on the buyers slip. Taxed it the day he got it - lost most of a month!

[LoonR1]

imagineifyeswill said:

Not on one car it isnt but how many cars change hands over the space of a week, month, year, DVLA will be doing very well out of it.

And how many of those are on cheap or free road tax?

[supertouring]

I got stopped for no tax after buying car, long story, but copper said if it is under 2 months then they are giving out warnings as there is too much confusion with the new rules.

Mine was over 2 months (technically I had the car less than 1) and in that case I had to pay there and then or say goodbye to the car. In the end the DVLA guy failed to arrive so they let me go.

[Fort Jefferson]

ryanthescot said:

The tax no longer stays with the car when it gets sold. So your son will have to tax the car and the DVLA taxpayer will laugh their way to the bank.

EFA

[Monkey boy 1]

I have had to tax a car on line as the car that was bought did not have a tax disc because of the new system. It was fairly painless and all went fairly smoothly. My question was raised because there was a valid in-date disc with the car.
Thanks everyone for the replies and your replies are as I thought.

[mph1977]

Monkey boy 1 said:

I have had to tax a car on line as the car that was bought did not have a tax disc because of the new system. It was fairly painless and all went fairly smoothly. My question was raised because there was a valid in-date disc with the car.
Thanks everyone for the replies and your replies are as I thought.

no VED disc is 'valid' after oct 2014 full stop.

[Monkey boy 1]

mph1977 said:

no VED disc is 'valid' after oct 2014 full stop.

I thought only if the vehicle is sold on. They are still valid for the duration of the displayed date if the owner does not sell the vehicle on.

[LoonR1]

Monkey boy 1 said:

I thought only if the vehicle is sold on. They are still valid for the duration of the displayed date if the owner does not sell the vehicle on.

He's being pedantic about the actual disc, not the tax that's been bought.

[mph1977]

Monkey boy 1 said:

mph1977 said:

no VED disc is 'valid' after oct 2014 full stop.

I thought only if the vehicle is sold on. They are still valid for the duration of the displayed date if the owner does not sell the vehicle on.

you can take the disc off the car and do what you want with it ... the VED is valid until it expires / change of keeper but the piece of papaer has no significance.

[Pit Pony]

LoonR1 said:

Monkey boy 1 said:

I thought only if the vehicle is sold on. They are still valid for the duration of the displayed date if the owner does not sell the vehicle on.

He's being pedantic about the actual disc, not the tax that's been bought.

I have put the oldest tax discs I could find in the screens of our cars. I found one from 1997, for our
J reg Mx5, but the number plate doesn't match the tax disc. It was actually from that car, but we changed the number plate at some point, to make it look older.

My 04 honda has a 2001 tax disc from a mk3 astra, and the 51 reg mini has a 2010 one from a 1988 mini

[rs1952]

Pit Pony said:

I have put the oldest tax discs I could find in the screens of our cars. I found one from 1997, for our
J reg Mx5, but the number plate doesn't match the tax disc. It was actually from that car, but we changed the number plate at some point, to make it look older.

My 04 honda has a 2001 tax disc from a mk3 astra, and the 51 reg mini has a 2010 one from a 1988 mini

This could be fun

So the tax disc itself is now no more than a bit of paper stuck to your windscreen, because the DVLA's recirds of who has taxed the car take precedence. That is the case, is it?

I've got a tax disc from 1961 kicking about somewhere. It was hidden at the very bottom of a pile of tax discs in a tax disc holder on a Rover P4 I bought about 1972 or so. I kept it because it must have been the original tax disc for the car.

So if I now dig it out and put it in the windscreen of my Merc 250TD, when it says it expires some time in 1961 and it belongs to Rover registration no. 148 LYC, then I am committing no offence?

Just interested