Is there any point in reporting a litterer?
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Just wondering if there's any point in reporting somebody blatantly littering out of a car/van window while driving.
This afternoon, I was driving down a dual carriageway, when I started to notice a few bits of recently dropped litter, i.e cardboard chip boxes and other stuff that hadn't been squashed or rolled to the side of the road yet.
I recognised the litter as coming from KFC.
I looked ahead and saw a silver Transit van, and as I watched, he threw another piece of rubbish out.
I then pulled alongside him and mouthed 'Use a bin' at him, to which he mouthed 'feck off' and raised a single finger.
I shook my head and carried on and pulled back into the lane in front of him. About 300m later, I had to pull off the dual carriageway, and as I did so, he drew up alongside me, wound his passenger window down and threw his KFC coke/pepsi cup at me while screaming something unintelligible.
I've got his reg, but just wondered if it's worth wasting mine and someone else's time by reporting him, or just chalk it up to another knob on the road.
This afternoon, I was driving down a dual carriageway, when I started to notice a few bits of recently dropped litter, i.e cardboard chip boxes and other stuff that hadn't been squashed or rolled to the side of the road yet.
I recognised the litter as coming from KFC.
I looked ahead and saw a silver Transit van, and as I watched, he threw another piece of rubbish out.
I then pulled alongside him and mouthed 'Use a bin' at him, to which he mouthed 'feck off' and raised a single finger.
I shook my head and carried on and pulled back into the lane in front of him. About 300m later, I had to pull off the dual carriageway, and as I did so, he drew up alongside me, wound his passenger window down and threw his KFC coke/pepsi cup at me while screaming something unintelligible.
I've got his reg, but just wondered if it's worth wasting mine and someone else's time by reporting him, or just chalk it up to another knob on the road.
btcc123 said:
The only way the police or council could do anything about it was if you had a dash can as a record of the incident.Then I am sure they would at least speak to him and likely procecute him for the offence he committed.
Would the fact that he threw something at you not make the police a bit more interested? Still your word against his but I would still phone it in.I pick up no end of rubbish on my morning bike ride and have witnessed people in a layby chuck out carrier bags of rubbish but always felt that it was not worth reporting for reasons above.
However I did manage to persuade the council to put a sign in the layby which said
"Strictly no dumping of litter maximum fine £25,000"
A week later there was a pile of magazines dropped right under the sign. I looked slowly through them (as they were of course pornographic!), and to my surprise there was a slip of paper with a name and address on it.
Called the council waste officer and thought I would hear no more but three months later there was a local bloke fined £100 for the offence.
Since then I have had more results using the council contact when I find names and addresses in black bin liners. The council officer has to be careful as often the "culprits" are pensioners who have asked someone to tidy their house/garden for them and it is those people who do the dumping.
However I did manage to persuade the council to put a sign in the layby which said
"Strictly no dumping of litter maximum fine £25,000"
A week later there was a pile of magazines dropped right under the sign. I looked slowly through them (as they were of course pornographic!), and to my surprise there was a slip of paper with a name and address on it.
Called the council waste officer and thought I would hear no more but three months later there was a local bloke fined £100 for the offence.
Since then I have had more results using the council contact when I find names and addresses in black bin liners. The council officer has to be careful as often the "culprits" are pensioners who have asked someone to tidy their house/garden for them and it is those people who do the dumping.
Back to the topic, it's high time more attention was paid to those chucking out of the window- it might end up on/in a biker's helmet, or on a cyclist's face.
On the rubbish dumping idea- councils are often their own worst enemy. How many council estates & empty houses end up with front garden full of rubbish as folk won't/can't pay councils to collect, at a time when the council decides it will . Local case- housing estates manager staff were run off feet emptying front gardens of sofa's /fridges etc. Local residents association suggested skip in different place each week. After that the idea expanded as it was successful and saved money.
On the rubbish dumping idea- councils are often their own worst enemy. How many council estates & empty houses end up with front garden full of rubbish as folk won't/can't pay councils to collect, at a time when the council decides it will . Local case- housing estates manager staff were run off feet emptying front gardens of sofa's /fridges etc. Local residents association suggested skip in different place each week. After that the idea expanded as it was successful and saved money.
btcc123 said:
The only way the police or council could do anything about it was if you had a dash can as a record of the incident.Then I am sure they would at least speak to him and likely procecute him for the offence he committed.
dream onthe dash cam police force only ever get taken seriously when one of their videos goes viral and the real police are forced to take action to appease the public
Has anyone noticed the state of the motorway verges recently? I had to go down to Northampton and back on Monday through the day and the entire M1 verges from Leeds down there and back is absolutely brimming with rubbish for what must be around 300 miles! WTF is going on? It can't all be takeaway waste from the MSAs.
It really boils down to people thinking that "someone else will pick it up".
Littering annoys me, its an obvious sign of low intelligence and lack of sincerity towards nature or the environment.
The local council should have a littering web page and associated form.
Manchester has a online form for example - https://secure.manchester.gov.uk/site/custom_scrip...
Littering annoys me, its an obvious sign of low intelligence and lack of sincerity towards nature or the environment.
The local council should have a littering web page and associated form.
Manchester has a online form for example - https://secure.manchester.gov.uk/site/custom_scrip...
Edited by BobSaunders on Saturday 7th March 16:07
Kyodo said:
Sadly we live a country with a firmly established underclass. Trying to confront anyone about their actions leads to abuse or violence and there's nothing the police can or will do. Welcome to Britain 
^This
I travel the roads of France and Spain on a very regular basis and in general verges are spotless. Its a 'who gives a f
k' attitude in the uk and the ones that do litter will live in st themselves, no amount of education will ever change that. The very reason the UK is known as the sthole of Europe..Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff