10 Minutes Leeway on Parking Tickets
10 Minutes Leeway on Parking Tickets
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TwigtheWonderkid

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49,211 posts

181 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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On the radio this morning, a new law is coming in to say you can't be ticketed until 10 mins after your time expires.

I just don't see the point. People will see their ticket runs out at 11:00. So they'll know they have until 11:10. Then when they get back at 11:11 and they've got a ticket, they will go mental because they were only a minute late and it's not fair and they're all bloodsucking leeches.

You'll still get the same irrational anger.

carpmaster

123 posts

218 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Miraculous how this suddenly becomes a priority just before a general election

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

259 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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carpmaster said:
Miraculous how this suddenly becomes a priority just before a general election
yes

There are lots of things that are becoming a priority all of a sudden.

V8LM

5,563 posts

240 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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It is the

BBC said:
guidance for councils reminding them they are banned from "using parking to generate profit"
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31759767

That interests me. Does this open the door to challenging Nottingham's workplace parking levy? This is purely a scheme to generate profit from parking as there is no cost to the council, other than the cost of collecting the money.

V8forweekends

2,501 posts

155 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Made me smile that Lord Pickles of the Pies says it'll magically revive town centres - if he thinks that all it needs he's even more stupid than he looks and acts.

Mezzanine

10,580 posts

250 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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How about abolishing parking fees completely for people parking for less than two hours?

That might revive your town centres a bit.

Or how about encouring small business and not allowing supermarkets to dominate a community?

No, just a tiny scrap of a leaway on your existing tax, how generous of you! You have my vote rolleyes


budfox

1,510 posts

160 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
On the radio this morning, a new law is coming in to say you can't be ticketed until 10 mins after your time expires.

I just don't see the point. People will see their ticket runs out at 11:00. So they'll know they have until 11:10. Then when they get back at 11:11 and they've got a ticket, they will go mental because they were only a minute late and it's not fair and they're all bloodsucking leeches.

You'll still get the same irrational anger.
Exactly. Buying votes. Nothing more.

speedking31

3,959 posts

167 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Why can't the councils just change the parking time to 50 minutes for a £1 instead of an hour and then we're all back to where we started? Nonsense idea silly

SK425

1,034 posts

180 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
On the radio this morning, a new law is coming in to say you can't be ticketed until 10 mins after your time expires.
Whilst I see "vote winning bribe" written all over it too, the principle - that minor transgressions receive lesser punishment, even down to zero for the most minor - doesn't sound that unreasonable to me.

TwigtheWonderkid said:
I just don't see the point. People will see their ticket runs out at 11:00. So they'll know they have until 11:10. Then when they get back at 11:11 and they've got a ticket, they will go mental because they were only a minute late and it's not fair and they're all bloodsucking leeches.

You'll still get the same irrational anger.
Some people will probably treat it like that - although their spluttering rants will now be coming from a weaker position than before - but whatever other ulterior motives might be behind it, I don't think anyone's suggested that this policy has the power to cure idiots.


Edited by SK425 on Friday 6th March 11:43

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

210 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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In taunton particularly they have privatised the parking enforcement to NSL and the town centre is suffering as people are going to retail parks in nearby cities because of the aggressive and relentless manor in which the rules are enforced.

Now it used to be that it was to ensure safe and legal parking and to keep the roads moving freely but they seem to treat it as a revenue ticket issuing exercise.

Example stopped in a loading bay outside estate agent walked in handed keys in signed a form was in 3mins and came out civil enforcement halfway through writing the ticket on her machine. She said its a loading bay : said I was unloading a set of keys, proceeded to debate the sense in parking in the nearest car park and paying for 1 hours parking and spending 10 mins walking etc she could not see any common sense however.

When I stated I returned to the car within 5 minutes and therefore at this stage all she should be doing is noting the car has been noticed by herself. She then ok on you go.

Ticketing for ticketing sake!

TwigtheWonderkid

Original Poster:

49,211 posts

181 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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V8forweekends said:
Lord Pickles of the Pies - if he thinks that all it needs he's even more stupid than he looks .
Even if he had the brain the size of a raisin, he couldn't be more stupid than he looks.

Phatboy317

801 posts

149 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
On the radio this morning, a new law is coming in to say you can't be ticketed until 10 mins after your time expires.

I just don't see the point. People will see their ticket runs out at 11:00. So they'll know they have until 11:10. Then when they get back at 11:11 and they've got a ticket, they will go mental because they were only a minute late and it's not fair and they're all bloodsucking leeches.

You'll still get the same irrational anger.
Irrational?

TwigtheWonderkid

Original Poster:

49,211 posts

181 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Phatboy317 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
On the radio this morning, a new law is coming in to say you can't be ticketed until 10 mins after your time expires.

I just don't see the point. People will see their ticket runs out at 11:00. So they'll know they have until 11:10. Then when they get back at 11:11 and they've got a ticket, they will go mental because they were only a minute late and it's not fair and they're all bloodsucking leeches.

You'll still get the same irrational anger.
Irrational?
Yup. You paid for a fixed amount of time, and you exceeded it. Who else's fault is it?
If your train leaves at 1pm, and you arrive at 1:01, to see it pulling away, do you scream abuse at the driver?

speedking31

3,959 posts

167 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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PS As the law only applies to council run car parks and on street parking you also have to be able to tell which type of car park you are parking in to know whether the relaxation applies to you.

Glosphil

4,893 posts

265 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Mezzanine said:
How about abolishing parking fees completely for people parking for less than two hours?

That might revive your town centres a bit.

Or how about encouring small business and not allowing supermarkets to dominate a community?

No, just a tiny scrap of a leaway on your existing tax, how generous of you! You have my vote rolleyes
In our local town's council car park parking is free after 3pm Mon-Sat and all day Sunday. Doctors and dentists complain that everyone wants appointments after 3pm!

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

210 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Glosphil said:
In our local town's council car park parking is free after 3pm Mon-Sat and all day Sunday. Doctors and dentists complain that everyone wants appointments after 3pm!
Taunton deane charge till late in most 6-8pm and then they charge of bank holidays!

Then occasionally they say at christmas parking is free after 4:30pm on a last few sats leading up to xmas cause there very generous like that!

Conscript

1,378 posts

152 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I'd rather councils stop enforcing stupid things just to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, such a non-transferable tickets. As long as the space is paid for, who cares which car is using it? Similarly, car parks which have a minimum amount/time you can buy parking for. I've never been late getting back to my car, but I've often had to pay for an hour of parking to make a 15 minute expedition to the shops. And machines which charge you something like 90P, or £1.20, but don't give change. So unless you have a pocket full of different denominations, you have to overpay anyway.

It really bugs me. Council leaders do everything they can to make it as difficult as possible for people to use their cars to visit the town, take the mick with the above policies when they do, then piss and cry about the demise of their high streets and act surprised when people go elsewhere.

STW2010

5,919 posts

193 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Mezzanine said:
How about abolishing parking fees completely for people parking for less than two hours?

That might revive your town centres a bit.

Or how about encouring small business and not allowing supermarkets to dominate a community?

No, just a tiny scrap of a leaway on your existing tax, how generous of you! You have my vote rolleyes
It is free all weekend now in Northampton. It certainly seems busier in the town centre lately, so it seems to work.

jbsportstech

5,069 posts

210 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Conscript said:
I'd rather councils stop enforcing stupid things just to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, such a non-transferable tickets. As long as the space is paid for, who cares which car is using it? Similarly, car parks which have a minimum amount/time you can buy parking for. I've never been late getting back to my car, but I've often had to pay for an hour of parking to make a 15 minute expedition to the shops. And machines which charge you something like 90P, or £1.20, but don't give change. So unless you have a pocket full of different denominations, you have to overpay anyway.

It really bugs me. Council leaders do everything they can to make it as difficult as possible for people to use their cars to visit the town, take the mick with the above policies when they do, then piss and cry about the demise of their high streets and act surprised when people go elsewhere.
My local council wasted millions building two out of town park and rides and neither of them are practical for me to use ie much further to drive and then get a bus back past my house, yet that will be their response if I complain about there CEO's enforcement tactics "you can park all day for £2 mr jbsporstech"!

LordGrover

34,186 posts

243 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Conscript said:
I'd rather councils stop enforcing stupid things just to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, such a non-transferable tickets. As long as the space is paid for, who cares which car is using it? Similarly, car parks which have a minimum amount/time you can buy parking for. I've never been late getting back to my car, but I've often had to pay for an hour of parking to make a 15 minute expedition to the shops. And machines which charge you something like 90P, or £1.20, but don't give change. So unless you have a pocket full of different denominations, you have to overpay anyway.

It really bugs me. Council leaders do everything they can to make it as difficult as possible for people to use their cars to visit the town, take the mick with the above policies when they do, then piss and cry about the demise of their high streets and act surprised when people go elsewhere.
I've always got a few quid in mixed change in a pot in the car.
It's not that unreasonable to keep some small change in the car for such occasions though, no?