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bp1000

Original Poster:

873 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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So i turn into a car park today next to a leisure centre to go through some papers and some bloke comes up knocking on the window asking if i was a member. I said no and he said then leave. To which i questions him. He said you aren't allowed to park here this is private land.

I looked around and there was enough spaces for about 100 cars and i said i'm nearly done i will leave before giving him a mouthful about being rude.

There wasn't any signage anywhere about it being private land, there were no pay and display machines and no maximum stay limit. Not even members carpark only.

Before he got back in his car he said he would be sending off my details and will prosecute, i assume he was on about my numberplate.

What on earth is that all about.


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

188 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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It's about you parking on private property without permission.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

208 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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So i turn into a driveway today next to a lovely big house to eat my McDonalds takeaway and some bloke comes up knocking on the window asking if i lived there I said no and he said then leave. To which i questions him. He said you aren't allowed to park here this is private land.

I looked around and there was enough spaces for about 3 cars and i said i'm nearly done i will leave before giving him a mouthful about being rude.

There wasn't any signage anywhere about it being private land, there were no pay and display machines and no maximum stay limit. Not even homeowners driveway only.

Before he got back into his home he said he would be sending off my details and will prosecute, i assume he was on about my numberplate.

What on earth is that all about.


chadders74

104 posts

186 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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In both cases it's trespass? So damage caused? 100 space car park or 3 space driveway, none. No you shouldn't do it, but in both cases not crime of the century. If it's a problem then the solution isn't closing the door after the horses have bolted.

Terminator X

20,894 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
So i turn into a driveway today next to a lovely big house to eat my McDonalds takeaway and some bloke comes up knocking on the window asking if i lived there I said no and he said then leave. To which i questions him. He said you aren't allowed to park here this is private land.

I looked around and there was enough spaces for about 3 cars and i said i'm nearly done i will leave before giving him a mouthful about being rude.

There wasn't any signage anywhere about it being private land, there were no pay and display machines and no maximum stay limit. Not even homeowners driveway only.

Before he got back into his home he said he would be sending off my details and will prosecute, i assume he was on about my numberplate.

What on earth is that all about.
I see what you did there wink

TX.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
So i turn into a driveway today next to a lovely big house to eat my McDonalds takeaway and some bloke comes up knocking on the window asking if i lived there I said no and he said then leave. To which i questions him. He said you aren't allowed to park here this is private land.

I looked around and there was enough spaces for about 3 cars and i said i'm nearly done i will leave before giving him a mouthful about being rude.

There wasn't any signage anywhere about it being private land, there were no pay and display machines and no maximum stay limit. Not even homeowners driveway only.

Before he got back into his home his friend turns up with a large tipper truck drives in and totally blocks the exit, shouts to the owner thanks mate for the use of your drive to park my truck for the weekend see you Monday and off he goes.

What on earth is that all about.
There that's sorted that mate smile


bp1000

Original Poster:

873 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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So how am i suppose to distinguish between a council run leisure centre and a private one when it isn't signposted.


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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What makes you think either provides you with free parking?

fulgurex

85 posts

145 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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bp1000 said:
So i turn into a car park today next to a leisure centre to go through some papers and some bloke comes up knocking on the window asking if i was a member. I said no and he said then leave. To which i questions him. He said you aren't allowed to park here this is private land.

I looked around and there was enough spaces for about 100 cars and i said i'm nearly done i will leave before giving him a mouthful about being rude.

There wasn't any signage anywhere about it being private land, there were no pay and display machines and no maximum stay limit. Not even members carpark only.

Before he got back in his car he said he would be sending off my details and will prosecute, i assume he was on about my numberplate.

What on earth is that all about.
Looks like you really turned on the charm offensive with the "bloke "

Monkeylegend

29,534 posts

262 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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bp1000 said:
So how am i suppose to distinguish between a council run leisure centre and a private one when it isn't signposted.
Council will have signs with parking info, private will have a bloke that tells you to p**S off, easy really.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Monkeylegend said:
bp1000 said:
So how am i suppose to distinguish between a council run leisure centre and a private one when it isn't signposted.
Council will have signs with parking info, private will have a bloke that tells you to p**S off, easy really.
Anything like the one near here in Brixton the guy wont get into an argument with you.
He's about 19 stone and built like a cage fighter you can work out the rest.


klingelton

70 posts

160 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Despite there being no signage, at the time of him telling you (and your refusal to move) it becomes trespass and you should move on. a sign at the gate telling you it's private land, no parking would negate the need for a rough to come and tell you. Move on, you're trespassing.

GPSHead

657 posts

272 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's about you parking on private property without permission.
But thankfully, if he's caused any loss to the landowner then the latter can get redress, so it's all good, for anyone who only cares about things which, you know, actually affect them in some discernible way.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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GPSHead said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
It's about you parking on private property without permission.
But thankfully, if he's caused any loss to the landowner then the latter can get redress, so it's all good, for anyone who only cares about things which, you know, actually affect them in some discernible way.
So taking that one step further anyone can come into your house and have a look around if they don't cause a loss by taking anything ie just 'surveying the goods',

Wait until the burglars cotton onto that one in court smile

(Through an unlocked door or window of course wink)

Countdown

49,519 posts

227 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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speedyguy said:
GPSHead said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
It's about you parking on private property without permission.
But thankfully, if he's caused any loss to the landowner then the latter can get redress, so it's all good, for anyone who only cares about things which, you know, actually affect them in some discernible way.
So taking that one step further anyone can come into your house and have a look around if they don't cause a loss by taking anything ie just 'surveying the goods',

Wait until the burglars cotton onto that one in court smile

(Through an unlocked door or window of course wink)
@GPSHead

So would using the fridge/telly/lavatory be ok? As long as I compensate for any "loss" occurred by the homeowner, of course....

How about taking somebody's car for a drive and reimbursing them at the HMRC-approved rate of 45ppm? Is that ok? I've compensated them for any loss.....