Parking appeal refused after baby taken to hospital
Parking appeal refused after baby taken to hospital
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GPSHead

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657 posts

271 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Oh yes, I'm so smugly glad after the Beavis verdict. Now these parasites can keep doing this and that's good, apparently.

Northampton Echo said:
Northampton mum has parking appeals turned down after leaving car to rush baby with meningitis to hospital

A mum from Northamptonshire got a £90 parking fine after leaving her car at a GP surgery so she could rush her son to hospital.

The woman, who has asked not to be named, went to the out-of-hours GP centre in Cliftonville, Northampton at about 11pm fearing her 19-week-old baby, called Daniel was seriously ill.

A doctor examined Daniel and advised the mum to take him immediately to Northampton General Hospital, which shares the same site, and leave her car at the centre.

On collecting her car she saw a penalty notice on the windscreen, but assumed her explanation to an appeals panel would see the charge rescinded.

But she has now lost two appeals and is being asked to pay £90.

She said: “I can’t understand why I’m not a special case. Apart from the fact my son had bacterial meningitis and I couldn’t leave him, I was told by the doctor it was okay.

“I understood that driving to the doctor was helpful to the NHS because it meant not needlessly tying up a paramedic. Perhaps I should have called an ambulance.”

The mum has been trying since Daniel was taken ill on January 8 to get the charge overturned.

Successive appeals to Smart Parking, which administers the car park at the out-of-hours centre, and the independent panel POPLAR were both rejected,, she said.

Integrated Care 24, which runs the out-of-hours centre, said it had not been contacted by either panel to check the mum’s story but would now see if they could corroborate her version of events.

Smart Parking could not be reached for a comment. [No, really?]

73mark

774 posts

157 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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WTF?

furious

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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She should let them take her to Court to see if a Judge will be more sympathetic.

750turbo

6,164 posts

254 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Social Media/Press will just love that story I bet.

Red Devil

13,527 posts

238 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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POPLAR. rolleyes Clearly can't see the wood for the trees.

The reason the appeals failed is pretty clear to anyone who knows how the system works. POPLA assessors are not permitted to consider mitigating circumstances. I will bet that is the ground on which the first appeal was founded. So any subsequent review is bound to come to the same conclusion. You have to know how to play the game.

As POPLA decisions are not binding she can still ignore and see whether the PPC decides to issue court proceedings. Hopefully though NGH can, and will, get this sorted out before it gets that far (if it ever does).

The PPC should hang its head in shame. But that's not its MO as it would impact its bottom line which is all it cares about. It is cases like this which do the industry no favours and make life difficult for those who have genuine issues needing a solution.

It is something which the BPA should be addressing but can't or won't because it is in thrall to the big players on whose subscription money it relies.

If the industry will not get its act together then the government may have to put in the statutory oversight it should have done in the first place.






numtumfutunch

5,179 posts

168 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Scum

eldar

25,313 posts

226 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Red Devil said:
POPLAR. rolleyes

If the industry will not get its act together then the government may have to put in the statutory oversight it should have done in the first place.
The government that promised, several times, to 'End the war on the motorist'.

wc98

12,763 posts

170 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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time for some naming and shaming of the people involved with smart parking. personally i would be telling them to ram it and let it go all the way to court. fking parasites.

98elise

32,769 posts

191 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Plenty of PH's on the other thread will say that she entered into a contract by parking there, so has already agreed to pay the £90 fine....erm charge for the service.


BertBert

21,308 posts

241 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Well the (legal) argument would be that the doctor varied the contract. The test would be something like was it reasonable for the lady to assume the Doc had the authority so to do.

The moral argument is what a load of twonks the PPCs and POPLAR are.

Bert

Red Devil

13,527 posts

238 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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wc98 said:
time for some naming and shaming of the people involved with smart parking. personally i would be telling them to ram it and let it go all the way to court. fking parasites.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/people/pe...

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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98elise said:
Plenty of PH's on the other thread will say that she entered into a contract by parking there, so has already agreed to pay the £90 fine....erm charge for the service.
I don't think anyone would argue this was a fair charge in the circumstances. Any system is going to throw up situations where there is a bad result.
I'd like to know the justification for rejecting the appeal.

rscott

17,515 posts

221 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Devil2575 said:
I don't think anyone would argue this was a fair charge in the circumstances. Any system is going to throw up situations where there is a bad result.
I'd like to know the justification for rejecting the appeal.
Red Devil has already explained why POPLA rejected it - they cannot consider mitigating circumstances.
As for Smart Parking - at a guess because they didn't want to affect their revenue stream...

TVR1

5,479 posts

255 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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You may note by whom and why the Beavis thread started.

This lady wasn't my wife but not dissimilar circumstances.

Pending my request to stay my hearing pending Beavis' further appeal, £100 is going to have to be paid, unless my wife wants a CCJ.


rich888

2,610 posts

229 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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The directors of Smart Parking (UK) Limited based in Scotland should be thoroughly ashamed, how they sleep at night is quite astonishing.

So roll play for the current directors names according to Companies House:

Mr Paul Gillespie. DOB 22/4/1974. Correspondence address: 5 South Inch Business Centre, Shore Road, Perth, PH2 8BW.
Mr Ben Richard Johnson. DOB 22/11/1970. Correspondence address: 601 Imperial Point The Quays, Salford, England, M50 3RA.
Mr Richard Ludbrook. DOB 19/8/1970. Correspondence address: 2 Oliver Street, Cambridge, New Zealand, 3434

What the hell is wrong with this country which allows lowlifes to fine innocent victims when they are at their most vulnerable - total scum in my opinion furious

Red Devil

13,527 posts

238 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Although that is what it feels like to the victim, as has been explained many times before, a PPC has no power to 'fine' anybody. Such proceedings as may ensue are civil, not criminal, and will be heard before a judge in a County Court rather than by the magistrates.

Jasandjules

72,650 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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It would be nice if the GP surgery paid up.

robinessex

12,037 posts

211 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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I've said it before, worth repeating. It was always on my desk, in a little frame.


budgie smuggler

6,077 posts

189 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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£90 sounds like a penalty which I thought were not allowed (as opposed to a genuine estimate of loss of earnings).

Edited by budgie smuggler on Wednesday 6th May 09:09

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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My girlfriend got a ticket from Smart parking when she did a long shop at a supermarket, before a holiday. It was the politest ticket I've ever read, lol. The ticket arrived while she was on the holiday. So she went to the store and complained. They put her debit card into a machine and saw how much she's spent in the store. It produced her shopping purchases. They cancelled her ticket on the spot.

Maybe it's worth complaining at source sometimes. I'd certainly be giving the GP some ear bending.